I'm now suspicious of GB.

AlongCameJones · November 25, 2021, 06:55 PM

They are billing me $15.50 for two plain listings with no paid options at all and no reserve prices set.

I've just sent them a message to dispute this. Please stayed tuned. I hope I don't have to file a disopute with my Cc bank on this for chargeback.

Has any GB user here gotten any nasty surprises?

Here is their fee schedule:

https://www.gunbroker.com/c/user/fees/

ligonierbill · November 25, 2021, 07:59 PM

You sold the guns, correct? GB will bill you a fee and sales tax. Sales tax is billed to the buyer, so that's a wash. How does that make you suspicious?

AlongCameJones · November 25, 2021, 10:39 PM

The guns have NOT sold yet.

ligonierbill · November 26, 2021, 07:48 AM

Review what boxes you checked. I've sold many guns there and never been charged prior to the sale.

**4V50 Gary** · November 26, 2021, 02:07 PM

GB must be hurting for cash flow. I stopped using EB when they wanted to bill me for a product not sold.

Bottom Gun · November 26, 2021, 05:32 PM

They now also charge the buyer a 1% compliance fee which is added to every purchase.

TruthTellers · November 27, 2021, 06:27 PM

Recently won an auction on GB, seller didn't accept money orders, so decided to use the card, got whacked with the state sales tax and GB fees. Gonna be the last time I ever bother using a card on the GB website, I'll just call the sellers and bypass that.

Yeah, gotta believe they need money, but it's not like people aren't buying guns, they still are, it's just those who are buying aren't us who see high prices, know they're high, and stop spending. We're the ones who use gunbroker, not first time buyers or new gun owners, so when we stop buying stuff gunbroker gets hurt.

natman · November 28, 2021, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthTellers

Recently won an auction on GB, seller didn't accept money orders, so decided to use the card, got whacked with the state sales tax and GB fees. Gonna be the last time I ever bother using a card on the GB website, I'll just call the sellers and bypass that.

Yeah, gotta believe they need money, but it's not like people aren't buying guns, they still are, it's just those who are buying aren't us who see high prices, know they're high, and stop spending. We're the ones who use gunbroker, not first time buyers or new gun owners, so when we stop buying stuff gunbroker gets hurt.

You're going to get charged state sales tax regardless of how you pay for the transaction. The seller gets charged for it and he'll pass it along to the buyer, just like any sales tax transaction.

I don't know why you should have to pay GB fees, that usually gets paid by the seller. He's the one using the service and getting the money.

Bottom Gun · November 28, 2021, 12:43 PM

This is why:

What is the Compliance Fee?

The Compliance Fee is a fee assessed by GunBroker.com and added to the price of the Item at the time of purchase. The U.S. states have been very active in passing new laws applicable to GunBroker.com, including in the areas of taxation, privacy and firearms. These laws have increased the compliance costs of GunBroker.com substantially.

The compliance fee is currently 1% of the purchase price of the item.

https://support.gunbroker.com/hc/en-.../4403265895579

jag2 · November 29, 2021, 02:35 PM

Some people missed the memo, I think from last Jan. that they had to start collecting state sale taxes. Not their choice, and keeping track of fifty different sets of rules doesn’t come without some expense. Be thankful that the last twenty years or so have been sales tax free, those days are over. We’re lucky that the incompetence of the legislatures has allowed it to go on as long as it has.

Seedy Character · November 29, 2021, 06:44 PM

GREED!

It happens with Armslist and eBay

Another forum I am on has a heading on their classifieds section, " if you have benefited from buying or selling on this forum, you need to become a supporting (paying) member.

If you have a history of posting listings, they will request payment and block you from posting.

AlongCameJones · December 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

I now know what happened. I checked RESERVE on both guns I was selling and listed them for 15 minutes. I then immediately changed them to NO RESERVE but got dinged by GB anyway.

NeverEnough · December 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

With how all prices are jacked right now, I don't even bother looking on GB anymore. Forget about trying to use it to sell.

Am I wrong?

natman · December 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverEnough

With how all prices are jacked right now, I don't even bother looking on GB anymore. Forget about trying to use it to sell.

Am I wrong?

It seems to me that when prices are high is the perfect time to sell.

NeverEnough · December 5, 2021, 01:58 PM

I didn't mean use to sell

November 25, 2021, 06:55 PM	#1
AlongCameJones member Join Date: May 25, 2021 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 203	I'm now suspicious of GB. They are billing me $15.50 for two plain listings with no paid options at all and no reserve prices set. I've just sent them a message to dispute this. Please stayed tuned. I hope I don't have to file a disopute with my Cc bank on this for chargeback. Has any GB user here gotten any nasty surprises? Here is their fee schedule: https://www.gunbroker.com/c/user/fees/

November 25, 2021, 10:39 PM	#3
AlongCameJones member Join Date: May 25, 2021 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 203	The guns have NOT sold yet. The guns have NOT sold yet.

November 26, 2021, 02:07 PM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,646	GB must be hurting for cash flow. I stopped using EB when they wanted to bill me for a product not sold. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

November 26, 2021, 05:32 PM	#6
Bottom Gun Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1998 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 1,090	They now also charge the buyer a 1% compliance fee which is added to every purchase. __________________ NRA Life Member Mechanical engineers have their moments.

November 27, 2021, 06:27 PM	#7
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,815	Recently won an auction on GB, seller didn't accept money orders, so decided to use the card, got whacked with the state sales tax and GB fees. Gonna be the last time I ever bother using a card on the GB website, I'll just call the sellers and bypass that. Yeah, gotta believe they need money, but it's not like people aren't buying guns, they still are, it's just those who are buying aren't us who see high prices, know they're high, and stop spending. We're the ones who use gunbroker, not first time buyers or new gun owners, so when we stop buying stuff gunbroker gets hurt. __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."

November 25, 2021, 07:59 PM	#2
ligonierbill Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2007 Posts: 2,251	You sold the guns, correct? GB will bill you a fee and sales tax. Sales tax is billed to the buyer, so that's a wash. How does that make you suspicious?

November 26, 2021, 07:48 AM	#4
ligonierbill Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2007 Posts: 2,251	Review what boxes you checked. I've sold many guns there and never been charged prior to the sale.

November 28, 2021, 12:43 PM	#9
Bottom Gun Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1998 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 1,090	This is why: What is the Compliance Fee? The Compliance Fee is a fee assessed by GunBroker.com and added to the price of the Item at the time of purchase. The U.S. states have been very active in passing new laws applicable to GunBroker.com, including in the areas of taxation, privacy and firearms. These laws have increased the compliance costs of GunBroker.com substantially. The compliance fee is currently 1% of the purchase price of the item. https://support.gunbroker.com/hc/en-.../4403265895579 __________________ NRA Life Member Mechanical engineers have their moments.

November 29, 2021, 02:35 PM	#10
jag2 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 768	Some people missed the memo, I think from last Jan. that they had to start collecting state sale taxes. Not their choice, and keeping track of fifty different sets of rules doesn’t come without some expense. Be thankful that the last twenty years or so have been sales tax free, those days are over. We’re lucky that the incompetence of the legislatures has allowed it to go on as long as it has.

November 29, 2021, 06:44 PM	#11
Seedy Character Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2021 Location: SW Okla Posts: 201	GREED! It happens with Armslist and eBay Another forum I am on has a heading on their classifieds section, " if you have benefited from buying or selling on this forum, you need to become a supporting (paying) member. If you have a history of posting listings, they will request payment and block you from posting.

December 3, 2021, 12:16 AM	#12
AlongCameJones member Join Date: May 25, 2021 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 203	I now know what happened. I checked RESERVE on both guns I was selling and listed them for 15 minutes. I then immediately changed them to NO RESERVE but got dinged by GB anyway.

December 5, 2021, 11:42 AM	#13
NeverEnough member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: PA Posts: 25	With how all prices are jacked right now, I don't even bother looking on GB anymore. Forget about trying to use it to sell. Am I wrong?

December 5, 2021, 01:58 PM	#15
NeverEnough member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: PA Posts: 25	I didn't mean use to sell

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