Who else likes the B'eagle/Jericho 941?

Pond, James Pond · July 2, 2013, 08:01 AM

I like them. Don't know why, just do. Never fired one, but they feel like they would be great pointers and, linking in with another thread of mine, they do look exactly how I imagine a "combat pistol" to look!!

So Jericho/Baby Eagle owners and ex-owners.
What do you like (and dislike) about these very distinctive (looking) pistols?
Above all, post me some pics!!

defjon · July 2, 2013, 08:04 AM

I used to have a polished chrome beagle.

I wish I wouldn't have sold it. It was a good shooter, very accurate. Easy to field strip.

What I didn't like was the difficulty of finding accessories. I decided to stick to more mainstream choices going forward- Sig, Glock, etc.

Scimmia · July 2, 2013, 10:12 AM

Very distinctive? They're basically just copies of the popular CZ75. You'll find plenty of opinions on them.

SoilworK777 · July 2, 2013, 10:20 AM

I held one at a gun show this past Saturday. Machining looked excellent, better than my CZ-75B. The finish felt/looked parkerized, and seemed to be well done. Seller was asking $559, NIB.

Kevin_d77 · July 2, 2013, 02:55 PM

Love mine! I have an IMI version,all steel, late 90's. Best shooter I own. Perfect grip and the weight eats recoil. I bought an XDm9 5.25 to play with and I never shoot it because the Baby Eagle is just that awesome.

Buy one! You will love it!

themalicious0ne · July 2, 2013, 03:35 PM

I love my Baby Desert Eagle. Its the old version, full steel, no rail. It has a fantastic grip and is a very accurate shooter. I also own a CZ 75. They are very comparable. Many people I take shooting actually prefer to shoot the Jericho. I am partial to my CZ. I think they are good quality, the only downside is parts/magazines/holsters are more difficult to find. However I read that depending on the BDE caliber, cz 75 mags are interchangeable.

Haz251 · July 2, 2013, 10:38 PM

Absolutely love mine!!! Its a new generation IWI full size 9mm polymer frame. It out shoots everything else and just feels right in my hand. Downside is that its a lil heavy for what it is and accessories are non existent. Got mine setting right beside me now. It goes everywhere I go and I wouldn't have it any other way.

6.8 · July 2, 2013, 10:50 PM

I had one for about 10 years. It got more use than any other pistol in the stable. I like the new ones as well. The black finish is rather cheap, anyone know if they are offering the brushed chrome version? (My Jericho was brushed/matte Chrome)

dave9969 · July 4, 2013, 02:08 PM

I had one till money got tight.
I ordered it from my gun dealer, he had to get it all the way from Israel direct. Great gun, but as stated its a CZ clone. Not that its a bad thing, the CZ are a good design but suffer from builder issues in quality often.
The Baby Eagle is a great gun. I Had the Baby Eagle II with no picatiny rail on the lower side. This is often the fastest way to tell the real eagles from the ones that Khar is making stateside now(or so I am told I am not an authority). I had no issues with the gun. Fired consistent groups and never had a FTE OR FTF not once with it. But if you get a new one expect to pay upwards of 599 for them now.
You can even still get the 41 acp conversion for them, if you can actually afford the ammo to shoot that one.

Pond, James Pond · July 4, 2013, 02:14 PM

And no pictures yet!!

Shame on you all!!

Use that "pic-post" icon.... you know you want to!

Garycw · July 4, 2013, 02:21 PM

The only thing I haven't been able to get used to is the slide mounted safety. Everything else I like including the polygonal rifling. Mine .40 cal. And toyed with the idea of selling its only had one 12 round mag through it. You can find holsters for it too.

dave9969 · July 4, 2013, 02:29 PM

why would I post pictures of a gun I no longer have? thats like keeping a picture of a car you traded it, its just not rite! lol

ok so I got a few lol I cant help it I loved the gun but I needed electricity more!

holy low attachment size rules bat man, how do you guys post pics under 244k?

Pond, James Pond · July 4, 2013, 02:45 PM

GaryCW.

That is a poly gun. I thought they were all steel. The one I've seen that I like (but can't afford... again!) is this one taken from the local classied sales website:

I think this is dead sexy!!

Garycw · July 4, 2013, 03:07 PM

No, they make the poly too. I do like the steel better though. With the poly you lose some of the weight and still feels great in the hand.

KCRaider21 · July 4, 2013, 03:25 PM

I have been thinking I want to pick one of these up in .40 s&w. It will probably be my next purchase.

Ludwig Von Mises · July 5, 2013, 01:59 PM

Jericho = Good

Baby Eagles = Bad

Jericho = My Israeli friends (tzanchanim(paratroopers)) use them in the field.

Baby Eagle = Heard of cracked frames from 2 people.

Conclusion - Go Jericho.

EDIT: In case some don't know, there is a vast difference in quality and durability between IMI (Israel Military Industries) and IWI (Israel Weapon Industries). Stay away from IWI. Only good thing I have heard about from them is the new import Tavor. The baby eagles are no good.

Kevin_d77 · July 5, 2013, 05:11 PM

^^^^mine is a IMI Baby Eagle so is that good or bad?

I could care less, I love mine!

Haz251 · July 6, 2013, 10:06 PM

Yea I got an IWI with 3 years of hardcore abuse under its belt so far... No problems. You hearing of 2 cracked frames instantly gives it a bad rep? 2 frames.......

6.8 · July 7, 2013, 04:16 AM

I never heard that before (IWI bad vs IMI good ) Anybody else care to chime in on this Issue? Don't they buy the frames and slides from Tanfoglio? What about the internal parts? Barrels etc..?

Garycw · July 7, 2013, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haz251

Yea I got an IWI with 3 years of hardcore abuse under its belt so far... No problems. You hearing of 2 cracked frames instantly gives it a bad rep? 2 frames.......

Potato/Patawtoe.. I'm really not which is best. Would tend to say IWI is since that's what I have. If I had IMI would to say they're best. I'd like to think they're BOTH good guns. I do like the looks of all of them and the only thing I don't care for on mine is that darn slide mounted safety/de-cocker. That is the ONLY thing I dislike about it, so much I've considered selling it.

NJgunowner · July 9, 2013, 09:22 AM

I think he's confusing the jericho and EA Witness with the cracked frames thing. The Witness wonder finish models used to have an issue with cracking on their 10mm models. I've never once heard of the jericho cracking. I have heard of premature wear on the polymer model magazine release, but that was years ago. I have a .45 jericho/baby eagle 2/whatever you want to call it and it's built like a tank.

TATER · July 9, 2013, 03:05 PM

Great little .45… I did swop out the recoil spring for a heavier one.
When new, it would throw my brass out of sight…Lucky if I recovered 20% of my brass..
With the heavier spring it piles the brass about 10 feet at my 4 o'clock..
This is my All steel IMI Baby Eagle .45

6.8 · July 11, 2013, 05:08 AM

You can, however, pick up a brushed Chrome Jericho Clone from Tristar. Its a mad Turk but made pretty well T-100 or T-120 Alloy frame Damn near exact Copy with one diff. No decocker comes with a Frame Mounted Safety

jmstr · July 11, 2013, 10:32 PM

I had an all-steel full-sized 9mm one until this March.

I really liked it. Seriously. However, I couldn't pull the trigger in DA and then switch to SA without changing my grip. If I used the right grip and wrist angle for SA, I couldn't get enough meat on the trigger to pull it in DA mode without it jerking all over.

And I'm in California: we have a 10 round limit since January of 2001.

I got into Browning Hi Powers recently and sold my Baby Eagle [VERY ACCURATE AND RELIABLE] to fuel my Hi Power kick. I find the Hi Power just as accurate and reliable, but my fingers can ALWAYS control the trigger properly.

Loved the Baby Eagle, but didn't have enough money to keep it and do other things I wanted to.

If my index finger was .2" longer I'd have probably kept it.

GREAT GUN! [after the trigger job done by polishing all the non-sear moving parts in the gun. From box it felt like there was sandpaper in there.]

James, I've been watching your posts this past year with a lot of interest. I like the path of discovery you are on with different firearms out there in east Europe. Keep it up!

Pond, James Pond · July 12, 2013, 03:49 AM

Quote:

James, I've been watching your posts this past year with a lot of interest. I like the path of discovery you are on with different firearms out there in east Europe. Keep it up!

Thanks for the endorsement!!

The "path of discovery", however, feels more like the "breadcrumb trail of ignorance"!!

On the one hand, the small firearms market and limited choice means that I cannot experience a lot of what I'd like. On the other handreloading being an example, it has encouraged me to be shrewd and resourceful in make the most of what I can get locally.

If I could change one thing about my situation (aside from a heckuvalot more cash), it would be more parts/accessory support for what guns one can already buy...

Whatever my road through firearms ownership should be called, though, I really like it!!

July 2, 2013, 08:01 AM	#1
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	Who else likes the B'eagle/Jericho 941? I like them. Don't know why, just do. Never fired one, but they feel like they would be great pointers and, linking in with another thread of mine, they do look exactly how I imagine a "combat pistol" to look!! So Jericho/Baby Eagle owners and ex-owners. What do you like (and dislike) about these very distinctive (looking) pistols? Above all, post me some pics!! __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly. Last edited by Pond, James Pond; July 2, 2013 at 02:35 PM.

July 4, 2013, 02:14 PM	#10
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	And no pictures yet!! Shame on you all!! Use that "pic-post" icon.... you know you want to! __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.

July 4, 2013, 02:21 PM	#11
Garycw Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2011 Location: Ohio-Kentucky - florida Posts: 1,221	Who else likes the B'eagle/Jericho 941? The only thing I haven't been able to get used to is the slide mounted safety. Everything else I like including the polygonal rifling. Mine .40 cal. And toyed with the idea of selling its only had one 12 round mag through it. You can find holsters for it too.

July 4, 2013, 02:45 PM	#13
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	GaryCW. That is a poly gun. I thought they were all steel. The one I've seen that I like (but can't afford... again!) is this one taken from the local classied sales website: I think this is dead sexy!! __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.

July 4, 2013, 03:07 PM	#14
Garycw Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2011 Location: Ohio-Kentucky - florida Posts: 1,221	Who else likes the B'eagle/Jericho 941? No, they make the poly too. I do like the steel better though. With the poly you lose some of the weight and still feels great in the hand.

July 2, 2013, 08:04 AM	#2
defjon Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2005 Posts: 785	I used to have a polished chrome beagle. I wish I wouldn't have sold it. It was a good shooter, very accurate. Easy to field strip. What I didn't like was the difficulty of finding accessories. I decided to stick to more mainstream choices going forward- Sig, Glock, etc.

July 2, 2013, 10:12 AM	#3
Scimmia Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2011 Location: Eastern IA Posts: 428	Very distinctive? They're basically just copies of the popular CZ75. You'll find plenty of opinions on them.

July 2, 2013, 10:20 AM	#4
SoilworK777 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 247	I held one at a gun show this past Saturday. Machining looked excellent, better than my CZ-75B. The finish felt/looked parkerized, and seemed to be well done. Seller was asking $559, NIB.

July 2, 2013, 02:55 PM	#5
Kevin_d77 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2012 Location: SW FL Posts: 953	Love mine! I have an IMI version,all steel, late 90's. Best shooter I own. Perfect grip and the weight eats recoil. I bought an XDm9 5.25 to play with and I never shoot it because the Baby Eagle is just that awesome. Buy one! You will love it!

July 2, 2013, 03:35 PM	#6
themalicious0ne Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2012 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 345	I love my Baby Desert Eagle. Its the old version, full steel, no rail. It has a fantastic grip and is a very accurate shooter. I also own a CZ 75. They are very comparable. Many people I take shooting actually prefer to shoot the Jericho. I am partial to my CZ. I think they are good quality, the only downside is parts/magazines/holsters are more difficult to find. However I read that depending on the BDE caliber, cz 75 mags are interchangeable.

July 2, 2013, 10:38 PM	#7
Haz251 Member Join Date: January 26, 2013 Posts: 97	Absolutely love mine!!! Its a new generation IWI full size 9mm polymer frame. It out shoots everything else and just feels right in my hand. Downside is that its a lil heavy for what it is and accessories are non existent. Got mine setting right beside me now. It goes everywhere I go and I wouldn't have it any other way.

July 2, 2013, 10:50 PM	#8
6.8 Junior member Join Date: February 21, 2013 Posts: 316	I had one for about 10 years. It got more use than any other pistol in the stable. I like the new ones as well. The black finish is rather cheap, anyone know if they are offering the brushed chrome version? (My Jericho was brushed/matte Chrome)

July 4, 2013, 02:08 PM	#9
dave9969 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 199	I had one till money got tight. I ordered it from my gun dealer, he had to get it all the way from Israel direct. Great gun, but as stated its a CZ clone. Not that its a bad thing, the CZ are a good design but suffer from builder issues in quality often. The Baby Eagle is a great gun. I Had the Baby Eagle II with no picatiny rail on the lower side. This is often the fastest way to tell the real eagles from the ones that Khar is making stateside now(or so I am told I am not an authority). I had no issues with the gun. Fired consistent groups and never had a FTE OR FTF not once with it. But if you get a new one expect to pay upwards of 599 for them now. You can even still get the 41 acp conversion for them, if you can actually afford the ammo to shoot that one.

July 4, 2013, 02:29 PM	#12
dave9969 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 199	why would I post pictures of a gun I no longer have? thats like keeping a picture of a car you traded it, its just not rite! lol ok so I got a few lol I cant help it I loved the gun but I needed electricity more! holy low attachment size rules bat man, how do you guys post pics under 244k?

July 4, 2013, 03:25 PM	#15
KCRaider21 Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Posts: 78	I have been thinking I want to pick one of these up in .40 s&w. It will probably be my next purchase.

July 5, 2013, 01:59 PM	#16
Ludwig Von Mises Member Join Date: September 24, 2012 Location: Nowhere in particular Posts: 52	Jericho = Good Baby Eagles = Bad Jericho = My Israeli friends (tzanchanim(paratroopers)) use them in the field. Baby Eagle = Heard of cracked frames from 2 people. Conclusion - Go Jericho. EDIT: In case some don't know, there is a vast difference in quality and durability between IMI (Israel Military Industries) and IWI (Israel Weapon Industries). Stay away from IWI. Only good thing I have heard about from them is the new import Tavor. The baby eagles are no good.

July 5, 2013, 05:11 PM	#17
Kevin_d77 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2012 Location: SW FL Posts: 953	^^^^mine is a IMI Baby Eagle so is that good or bad? I could care less, I love mine!

July 6, 2013, 10:06 PM	#18
Haz251 Member Join Date: January 26, 2013 Posts: 97	Yea I got an IWI with 3 years of hardcore abuse under its belt so far... No problems. You hearing of 2 cracked frames instantly gives it a bad rep? 2 frames.......

July 7, 2013, 04:16 AM	#19
6.8 Junior member Join Date: February 21, 2013 Posts: 316	I never heard that before (IWI bad vs IMI good ) Anybody else care to chime in on this Issue? Don't they buy the frames and slides from Tanfoglio? What about the internal parts? Barrels etc..?

July 9, 2013, 09:22 AM	#21
NJgunowner Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,254	I think he's confusing the jericho and EA Witness with the cracked frames thing. The Witness wonder finish models used to have an issue with cracking on their 10mm models. I've never once heard of the jericho cracking. I have heard of premature wear on the polymer model magazine release, but that was years ago. I have a .45 jericho/baby eagle 2/whatever you want to call it and it's built like a tank.

July 9, 2013, 03:05 PM	#22
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 963	Great little .45… I did swop out the recoil spring for a heavier one. When new, it would throw my brass out of sight…Lucky if I recovered 20% of my brass.. With the heavier spring it piles the brass about 10 feet at my 4 o'clock.. This is my All steel IMI Baby Eagle .45

July 11, 2013, 05:08 AM	#23
6.8 Junior member Join Date: February 21, 2013 Posts: 316	You can, however, pick up a brushed Chrome Jericho Clone from Tristar. Its a mad Turk but made pretty well T-100 or T-120 Alloy frame Damn near exact Copy with one diff. No decocker comes with a Frame Mounted Safety

July 11, 2013, 10:32 PM	#24
jmstr Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA Posts: 1,281	I had an all-steel full-sized 9mm one until this March. I really liked it. Seriously. However, I couldn't pull the trigger in DA and then switch to SA without changing my grip. If I used the right grip and wrist angle for SA, I couldn't get enough meat on the trigger to pull it in DA mode without it jerking all over. And I'm in California: we have a 10 round limit since January of 2001. I got into Browning Hi Powers recently and sold my Baby Eagle [VERY ACCURATE AND RELIABLE] to fuel my Hi Power kick. I find the Hi Power just as accurate and reliable, but my fingers can ALWAYS control the trigger properly. Loved the Baby Eagle, but didn't have enough money to keep it and do other things I wanted to. If my index finger was .2" longer I'd have probably kept it. GREAT GUN! [after the trigger job done by polishing all the non-sear moving parts in the gun. From box it felt like there was sandpaper in there.] James, I've been watching your posts this past year with a lot of interest. I like the path of discovery you are on with different firearms out there in east Europe. Keep it up!