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Old March 21, 2013, 09:18 PM   #1
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IMI Timber Wolf pump-action rifles

IMI Timber Wolf pump-action rifles
What are the differences in the rifle parts between the 357 Mag/38 Special versions and the 44 Mag/44 Special versions? Somewhere along the road of life I think I read that only the barrel is different between the two versions. Anyone know if that's true, or is the action different, too?

And, let's say that someone has one in 44 Mag, but let's say that same someone happens to have an extra factory-original IMI Timber Wolf 357 barrel "laying around". How does one change the barrel? Do they just unscrew and then screw in the new one? Do I need a gunsmith to do this?

Anyone know?

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Old March 22, 2013, 10:16 AM   #2
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There were so few Timber Wolf Carbines sold, that I'd be surprised if many folks even know what one looked like.

I know, and have even handled one in a funshop, many years ago - but can't answer your question(s). Sorry.

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Old March 22, 2013, 10:25 AM   #3
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I couldn't tell you that, but with such a rare gun, I wouldn't risk damage by a DIY, unless you have extensive knowledge of the gun. They sure were cool. I wish they'd start making them again.
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Old March 22, 2013, 08:02 PM   #4
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No one knows about these rifles? They are rare, but not that rare.
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Old March 22, 2013, 11:56 PM   #5
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They are rare, but not that rare.
What is rare is a Timber Wolf owner willing to part with one. I've wanted one for years. I'm waiting for someone to make them again. ...... anybody at Henry listening????....
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Old March 23, 2013, 08:49 AM   #6
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It is an interesting thought about Henry being a company that could consider making these rifles. I don't think they have the technical know-how or the production facilities to do it, however. They use a particular modification of the Marlin action and that's about all they can do. They do have a pump 22, but I don't think they'd be able to scale up to the 38/357 or the 44's.

In terms of finding a rare Timber wolf owner who is willing to part with one of these rifles, they are out there because several have been sold on GunBroker and Guns America within the last few months. The 357's go for between 1,000 and 2,000 a piece, mostly in the 1,400 to 2,000 range. I suspect that high price is the reason people are coming out of the woodwork to sell these things now. As the AR frenzy cools down, and thus the alternative-to-AR frenzy cools down, the marketplace value of the 357 lever rifles and the Timber Wolf rifles will probably drop low enough that the Timber Wolf rifles for sale will become as elusive as a timber wolf. So, get one now if you ever want one, and yes, be prepared to pay. I have seen one particular bidder who obviously wants one of these things and he bids on every auction for them, but cuts himself off at about $1,050 and never seems to win one. You have to be prepared to pay more if you want one.
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Old March 23, 2013, 10:17 AM   #7
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To address your question about differences between .357 and .44 parts, it's just about guaranteed there are plenty of them.
The bolt assembly, extractor, and magazine tube must at least be different, just for starters:
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Old October 15, 2015, 07:10 PM   #8
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i've owned a 357 a tw since the '80s i think i payed close to 4 bills for it i've shot a couple hogs with it it worked fine the 44 is really rare my sources claim less then a thousand made (some say only 500 made,but who knows )and they weren't distributed to many dealers in usa and those were snatched rapidly by anybody with access ,i,ve tried to contact iwi/imi usa and in israel to know avail each sending me back to the other ,i sort of got a slight rapport going with a customer service rep through e mails ,but she ultimately quit returning e-mails they act mostly like they have no clue about the guns .357 or the .44,she was the only one who even admitted they made them ,but no one knows if spare parts exist,the gun reminds me so much of the winchester and remington pump .22s from before the 1900s if it had a octagon barrel you'd really have closely inspect it to notice difference ,the tale i heard on manufacture was the police at that time were supposedly carrying .357 revolver side arms and they wanted a short fast rifle to match their side arm ammo for those times when they needed a longer gun and one that would work in doors also ,10 .357 rounds ,tube fed magazine ,black walnut furniture,buckhorn sights very fast shooting reliable gun,shoots .38s also,if your scenario is more then hypothetical i'd like to know where the barrel comes from ,maybe more parts there
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