Russian - Junior .22 ammo

colbad · March 20, 2013, 12:23 AM

I was given a bunch of this ammo. It is brand new and says steel cases made in Russia. Anyone know anything about this and how dirty it might be?

Come and take it. · March 20, 2013, 07:26 AM

I don't know anything about it but if it is steel cased I bet you are looking at the future of 22 ammunition.

adamc · March 20, 2013, 07:35 AM

how does a steel case work in a semi auto 22?

would the firing pin have enough 'oomph' for a fire ?

chiefr · March 20, 2013, 08:10 AM

I bought some of this back in the 90s for a real low price at a gun show. The first time I used this ammo, I was firing thru a Ruger Single 6. and a friend was using it in his K-22. All went bang and accuracy was on par with cheap WW & R-P ammo.

A month or so later, I took the ammo to the range. This time with a Marlin 22 and a Ruger 10-22. What we found was 25-30% FTF. The firing pin was not indenting the rim enough to ignite the priming charge. Ironically, it would fire in a different 10-22. Yes, the steel case is harder. A subsequent strike on a case that FTF would usually work.

This ammo was not reliable in a S&W model 41, but was 100% reliable in a Ruger Standard Auto.

If your gun has a robust and hard hitting firing pin mechanism, this stuff is OK. If it FTF, try it in another gun.

22-rimfire · March 21, 2013, 03:47 PM

From what I have read, the stuff isn't very accurate. Hence I would not be interested in buying any of it.

Red Tornado · March 27, 2013, 04:07 PM

There's a lot of info on RFC. Check the Russian forum and do a search. It was somewhat sought after by some of the members, but I've never even seen it up close.
RT

kilimanjaro · March 29, 2013, 12:00 AM

Bought a case of 6,000 rounds in the early 1990's, it shot and cycled through whatever I put it in, revolver, 10/22's, bolt actions, all of it.

Gotta run a patch down the bore later, but it's fairly clean.

biganimal · March 29, 2013, 08:03 PM

bought and sold 40 bricks in the mid 90s
shot at least 4 bricks myself thru several firearms including a couple 10/22s a colt revolver a ruger revolver and a marlin model60
it worked flawlessly in all except the marlin.
accuracy was better than remington thunderbolts and on par with winchester and american eagle but not as good as cci

March 20, 2013, 12:23 AM	#1
colbad Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2012 Posts: 506	Russian - Junior .22 ammo I was given a bunch of this ammo. It is brand new and says steel cases made in Russia. Anyone know anything about this and how dirty it might be?

March 20, 2013, 07:35 AM	#3
adamc Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2013 Location: Stalingrad Connecticut Posts: 216	how does a steel case work in a semi auto 22? would the firing pin have enough 'oomph' for a fire ? __________________ ** NRA Life Member *** Connecticut was the Cradle of the Gun Industry, NOW it is just a Pine Box, Courtesy of our Governor "Chairman MAO Malloy"

March 29, 2013, 08:03 PM	#8
biganimal Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: south carolina Posts: 435	bought and sold 40 bricks in the mid 90s shot at least 4 bricks myself thru several firearms including a couple 10/22s a colt revolver a ruger revolver and a marlin model60 it worked flawlessly in all except the marlin. accuracy was better than remington thunderbolts and on par with winchester and american eagle but not as good as cci __________________ Other than That, Mrs Lincoln, How was the play?

March 20, 2013, 07:26 AM	#2
Come and take it. Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 999	I don't know anything about it but if it is steel cased I bet you are looking at the future of 22 ammunition.

March 20, 2013, 08:10 AM	#4
chiefr Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: AR Posts: 1,401	I bought some of this back in the 90s for a real low price at a gun show. The first time I used this ammo, I was firing thru a Ruger Single 6. and a friend was using it in his K-22. All went bang and accuracy was on par with cheap WW & R-P ammo. A month or so later, I took the ammo to the range. This time with a Marlin 22 and a Ruger 10-22. What we found was 25-30% FTF. The firing pin was not indenting the rim enough to ignite the priming charge. Ironically, it would fire in a different 10-22. Yes, the steel case is harder. A subsequent strike on a case that FTF would usually work. This ammo was not reliable in a S&W model 41, but was 100% reliable in a Ruger Standard Auto. If your gun has a robust and hard hitting firing pin mechanism, this stuff is OK. If it FTF, try it in another gun.

March 21, 2013, 03:47 PM	#5
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	From what I have read, the stuff isn't very accurate. Hence I would not be interested in buying any of it.

March 27, 2013, 04:07 PM	#6
Red Tornado Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 226	There's a lot of info on RFC. Check the Russian forum and do a search. It was somewhat sought after by some of the members, but I've never even seen it up close. RT

March 29, 2013, 12:00 AM	#7
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Bought a case of 6,000 rounds in the early 1990's, it shot and cycled through whatever I put it in, revolver, 10/22's, bolt actions, all of it. Gotta run a patch down the bore later, but it's fairly clean.