Issues with 1100 CT

rcase1234 · March 17, 2013, 08:37 PM

Hello. So I am having some issues with my 1100 Classic Trap. It is not cycling. I have been using Winchester 1 1/8oz #7.5 low brass target loads. And it won't cycle any of them! After it shoots it doesn't cycle and the bolt is a little tough to pull back to cycle the shell. The gas ring is clean, the recoil spring in the stock looks fine, and the gun has been thoroughly cleaned and oiled. I don't know what the problem could be. It has the new style once piece gas ring. The rubber I ring is a little loose and doesn't fit snug on the mag tube. Could that be it? If not, what could it be? This gun is brand new and this is the second time I've shot it and it won't cycle.

BigD_in_FL · March 17, 2013, 08:51 PM

First, is the gas port clean? It might still have some of the gunk they put on the gun for shipment in the gas port opening.

It sounds like something in that area is the issue. The O ring should be snug on the mag tube in the recess on the tube. If it needs replacing, get some Viton ones from the auto supply store - just get the correct size. Do NOT use lube on the ring as any oil-based product will eat the ring.
It should easily handle basic 1oz target loads with no problem

rcase1234 · March 17, 2013, 09:05 PM

The gas ports are clean. I will try some new o rings

charlie in md · March 17, 2013, 09:22 PM

but is the gas ring installed correctly (not backwards)? Also, it's ok if the O ring is a little loose.

If you remove the bolt assembly, and the trigger assembly, can you easily push the link (the part that connects the rear of the bolt assembly to the action spring in the stock) back towards the stock?

You stated the gun has been oiled. Make sure you do not oil the magazine tube, as that will gum up the works.

BigD_in_FL · March 17, 2013, 09:48 PM

^^^^ good point about the piston and the wrong direction

Virginian · March 17, 2013, 10:50 PM

Try some different shells and see what happens before going off the deep end.

rcase1234 · March 18, 2013, 05:07 PM

I'll try some new shells and look at the piston. Which way should the one piece style piston go on the mag tube?

charlie in md · March 18, 2013, 05:43 PM

receiver at bottom

charlie in md · March 18, 2013, 05:45 PM

Does the bolt open at all when you fire?

rcase1234 · March 18, 2013, 06:00 PM

No I have to rack the bolt manually

charlie in md · March 18, 2013, 07:15 PM

The only other thing I can think of is that the bolt is not being freed to move back when you fire. Is the locking block assy (inside the bolt) free to move?

Harry Callahan · March 18, 2013, 09:57 PM

When is the last time you detail cleaned it? Very easy gun to strip all the way down. I took apart my friend's 1100 a couple years ago. It had not been fully cleaned since new(1972). Amazing how much crud I got out of it. So much smoother now.

rcase1234 · March 19, 2013, 03:07 PM

When I first got it in feb. Only shot it twice maybe 60 rounds through it

Virginian · March 19, 2013, 05:45 PM

Repeat: Try some different shells.

rcase1234 · March 19, 2013, 07:06 PM

I do plan on it Virginian. It's snowing right now and is suppose to till tomorrow so I doubt if I will till the weekend

Virginian · March 19, 2013, 09:53 PM

Snow? What's that?

Before I left Ohio I was about to spring for a new snowblower. I haven't missed that experience one bit.

March 17, 2013, 08:37 PM	#1
rcase1234 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 407	Issues with 1100 CT Hello. So I am having some issues with my 1100 Classic Trap. It is not cycling. I have been using Winchester 1 1/8oz #7.5 low brass target loads. And it won't cycle any of them! After it shoots it doesn't cycle and the bolt is a little tough to pull back to cycle the shell. The gas ring is clean, the recoil spring in the stock looks fine, and the gun has been thoroughly cleaned and oiled. I don't know what the problem could be. It has the new style once piece gas ring. The rubber I ring is a little loose and doesn't fit snug on the mag tube. Could that be it? If not, what could it be? This gun is brand new and this is the second time I've shot it and it won't cycle.

March 17, 2013, 09:22 PM	#4
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	I'm not trying to be funny but is the gas ring installed correctly (not backwards)? Also, it's ok if the O ring is a little loose. If you remove the bolt assembly, and the trigger assembly, can you easily push the link (the part that connects the rear of the bolt assembly to the action spring in the stock) back towards the stock? You stated the gun has been oiled. Make sure you do not oil the magazine tube, as that will gum up the works.

March 18, 2013, 05:43 PM	#8
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	here's what it looks like receiver at bottom

March 18, 2013, 09:57 PM	#12
Harry Callahan Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2006 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 832	When is the last time you detail cleaned it? Very easy gun to strip all the way down. I took apart my friend's 1100 a couple years ago. It had not been fully cleaned since new(1972). Amazing how much crud I got out of it. So much smoother now. __________________ "Ah ah. I know what you're thinkin'. Did he fire 6 shots or only 5? To tell you the truth in all this excitement I've kind of lost track myself. But with this being a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off... you've got to ask yourself a question. Do I feel lucky? WELL DO YA, PUNK?!!!"- Harry Callahan(Dirty Harry)

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March 17, 2013, 08:51 PM	#2
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	First, is the gas port clean? It might still have some of the gunk they put on the gun for shipment in the gas port opening. It sounds like something in that area is the issue. The O ring should be snug on the mag tube in the recess on the tube. If it needs replacing, get some Viton ones from the auto supply store - just get the correct size. Do NOT use lube on the ring as any oil-based product will eat the ring. It should easily handle basic 1oz target loads with no problem

March 17, 2013, 09:05 PM	#3
rcase1234 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 407	The gas ports are clean. I will try some new o rings

March 17, 2013, 09:48 PM	#5
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	^^^^ good point about the piston and the wrong direction

March 17, 2013, 10:50 PM	#6
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Try some different shells and see what happens before going off the deep end.

March 18, 2013, 05:07 PM	#7
rcase1234 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 407	I'll try some new shells and look at the piston. Which way should the one piece style piston go on the mag tube?

March 18, 2013, 05:45 PM	#9
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	Does the bolt open at all when you fire?

March 18, 2013, 06:00 PM	#10
rcase1234 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 407	No I have to rack the bolt manually

March 18, 2013, 07:15 PM	#11
charlie in md Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Posts: 185	The only other thing I can think of is that the bolt is not being freed to move back when you fire. Is the locking block assy (inside the bolt) free to move?

March 19, 2013, 03:07 PM	#13
rcase1234 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 407	When I first got it in feb. Only shot it twice maybe 60 rounds through it

March 19, 2013, 05:45 PM	#14
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Repeat: Try some different shells.

March 19, 2013, 07:06 PM	#15
rcase1234 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 407	I do plan on it Virginian. It's snowing right now and is suppose to till tomorrow so I doubt if I will till the weekend

March 19, 2013, 09:53 PM	#16
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Snow? What's that? Before I left Ohio I was about to spring for a new snowblower. I haven't missed that experience one bit.