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March 14, 2013, 11:54 AM | #1 |
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US Senate Committee Approves AWB & Mag. Limits
Ok, not really a big surprise the US Senate Judiciary Committee approved Sen. Feinstein’s assault weapons ban and magazine capacity limitation bill today along party lines 10-8. The Bill now progresses through the process and probably goes before the full Senate in April.
While I suspect the Bill will not pass in the present form I am concerned about any potential compromise they may come up with. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...t-weapons-ban/
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March 14, 2013, 11:58 AM | #2 |
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Even the compromise bill has very little chance of passing the House anyway. I'm not too worried at this point. I really believe that mag limits and another "AWB" probably won't pass. However, what I am worried about is a UBC law. That might be enough of a "compromise" even from republicans (especially blue state republicans) that it might pass both houses. Which is, of course, why its important to contact our senators and representatives.
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March 14, 2013, 12:24 PM | #4 |
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Yeah, I suppose you are right. It's difficult to predict anything, of course, but I just don't see republicans in general (there's a few, I'm sure where this doesn't apply) and red state dems going with it. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) for example, I doubt very much that he would vote for any restriction on guns. It would guarantee he wouldn't be re-elected (guns are very important to Alaskans, regardless of party affiliation or social status).
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March 14, 2013, 12:43 PM | #5 |
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I think it's DOA. The other thing to consider is history. If they are willing to give up 50 seats again then go for it. But again, it's not going to happen.
IMHO, there is no policital mandate, we just had an election and this wasn't the issue. These folks in congress understand that fact even if they will not say it outloud. |
March 14, 2013, 12:45 PM | #6 |
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She has some support on the committee, Franken for example, that swallows the idea that a study of something 10 years old requesting more time to study the results that are yet to come "in a few years". But truth be told, I think they passed it out of com. just to shut her up. She gets her day on the floor, and won't attach it to everything under the sun.
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All the guys and gals that said this would never even get out of comity . You got any other bold predictions we should be taking to the bank ?
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I think JRH6856 has a good point:
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March 14, 2013, 01:53 PM | #10 |
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And when the House Republicans reject the "compromise" it will quite possibly then become another tool to use in the upcoming 2014 mid terms to vote in full House and Senate control by one political party. If you think your rights are being infringed upon now you haven't seen anything yet. "Remember the Maine", "Remember Pearl Harbor", perhaps "Remember in November" should be given equal status!
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March 14, 2013, 01:53 PM | #11 |
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Especially if passing the ban gets the Republicans more mid-term seats than defeating it.
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March 14, 2013, 01:59 PM | #12 |
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Passing the ban would do about the same as last time, seats will be lost. There is no mandate for gun control with this congress. If they forget that they need to look at how history plays out on this very issue.
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S. 374, the so-called "background check" bill would criminalize all kinds of innocent actions that don't currently count as a transfer. In fact, as a gunowner, unless you never let any living soul touch your guns and kept it locked in a container only you had access to, it would be almost impossible not to become a felon under this law.
Leave your spouse with your pistol for more than 7 days while you are out of town? You're a felon. Loan a rifle to your buddy while you are hunting on public land? You're a felon. Drive over to your buddy's house to show him your latest gun shop treasure from the consignment rack? Felon. There are so any problems with the law as written, you couldn't cover them all in a law review article. This is about way more than just "background checks." Difficult to believe that a Senator who has been writing anti-gun legislation for 20 years did all that accidentally. |
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I should say this...I watched some of the recording of the Judicial Committee's hearing on this particular bill, and Sen. Cruz's statements were brilliant. He made career politicians (namely Feinstein) answer questions about the Constitution. It's worth watching it, and especially seeing how little Feinstein knows about guns (she must know about new imploding bullets that I've never heard of). Just watch, you'll be proud of Sen. Cruz.
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He also apparently had a pretty big role in the Heller case. From Wikipedia:
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He asked if she would back a bill that specifically banned certain books, but allowed others that Congress deemed were acceptable. After some dodging, and after being pressed again, she said something like, "Well, of course I wouldnt." But then a bit later, she tried to use Child Pornography as an example of books that could be banned by congress. A pretty weak argument, if you ask me. I don't know too much about Sen. Ted Cruz, but it appears he, and others like Rand Paul, are really starting to shake Congress up. It will be interesting to see what happens with them in the near future. |
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this was from a month ago or at least that's when it was put up on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiMYIQXQUZE This one is from Lindsey Graham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhtqc2FUjGY I'm still looking for the most resent video and will post it soon
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Huffpo has the video of the exchange. Worth the three minutes.
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Does anyone know where I can find a roll call f the votes?
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All ten Democrats voted For, All eight Republicans voted Against. Hope that helps.
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Thank you however I'd also like to know where to find the actual votes for future bills.
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For the Senate Roll Call Votes
For the House Roll Call Votes For the various committees, you may need to use some googlefoo but you might find it all at Thomas
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