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Old February 25, 2013, 05:01 PM   #26
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Ive owned around 40 1911's in my life time, and by far, they were the most trouble. The Colts and GI guns were fine, allowing for some tweaks with the early guns, the Kimbers and Springfields were the worst.

Ive owned about the same number of SIG's, Glocks, and HK's combined, and only ever had trouble with one early Glock.
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Old February 25, 2013, 05:04 PM   #27
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I had a problem with a Ruger 1911 but after sending it to the factory it now runs good.

I have a Walther P22 that was very picky until about 1000 rounds where fired through it.
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Old February 25, 2013, 05:54 PM   #28
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For me personally it was the Walther P22 followed by a Llama mini max 1911. The Walther would not get through a single magazine without multiple jams, FTF, FTE, etc regardless of the type of ammo used. Sold it 2 weeks after I bought it. The Llama would not feed the last round of a magazine regardless of ammo type and magazine brand. Ended up having to replace the barrel and then sold it.
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Old February 25, 2013, 05:57 PM   #29
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Biggest piece of junk I've owned was a Taurus TCP. My first and last Taurus. I took it on a trade and it was traded right back off ASAP. I couldnt imagine using a CCW that has to have another round manually loaded to resume operation if the trigger is even SLIGHTLY short stroked. And its designed that way by Taurus! Even says it in the owner's manual. I've never had a habit of short stroking a trigger but in a self defense situation no one knows how they might react unless they've done it before. I wont bet my life on something with such a design flaw.
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Old February 25, 2013, 06:23 PM   #30
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I'm not in y'all's club. I own a Glock Gen 4 model 22 and its awesome. Trade y'all's P.O.S.s and get a Glock and then your troubles are gone!
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Old February 25, 2013, 06:51 PM   #31
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Old February 25, 2013, 07:20 PM   #32
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Hey, if you got the Raven .25 that I gave to the LGS, I got nothing in return for it. Never heard from the guy. If so, please forward 15 bucks.

Got that gun from Daddy Fred's estate and one look told me to never fire it. He was a character. Also got a 1918 made 1911 original Gov't issue. He musta stole it from somewhere...
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Old February 25, 2013, 07:35 PM   #33
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Glock 19 Gen 4.

Yup, I went there.

Its okay though. I know the Gen 4's have some issues with brass cased high fives to the face. Anyways, my father-in-law has 2 Ruger SR9's. I've got to say, I hope they were lemons because they had a failure to feed with almost every other round. We tried cleaning them, changing mags, and using different ammo. It certainly might not be the worst gun out there, but its the worst individual gun (I'm sure some SR9's are great) that I have ever fired.
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Old February 25, 2013, 07:36 PM   #34
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I suppose I should play the lottery, as I've had over a dozen 1911s, and not one of them has had issues with reliability. I don't know what to suggest to those who have had problems with multiple 1911s... perhaps the infamous limp wrist syndrome.
I agree. With 1911s you have to properly clean them (once in awhile), use quality magazines (Wilson's mags, etc), properly lubricate them, and do not limp wrist them.
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Old February 25, 2013, 08:57 PM   #35
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Does a cracked frame with standard pressure factory ammo make something a POS?

If so, then a HiPoint qualifies and gets my vote. I had to tell a guy his HiPoint was junk when he came to me with it jammed loaded and half in battery. I tried to beat it open, but when I saw the frame cracked, I told him to call them and ask what to do or pitch it.

Also, for the mods:How does POS pass the mod test for good language, but suck does not? Just wondering. Don't care that much, so please do not view as a complaint or issue...
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Old February 25, 2013, 10:01 PM   #36
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OK Guys, 1 more Clue. The Ultimate POS Comes from Egypt, Think Beretta 1951 Copy and the pure humiliation one gets from ownership. Come on, Thats giving it Away!
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Old February 25, 2013, 10:19 PM   #37
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Not sure it was a 'POS' but the CZ52 I owned had terrible ergonomics and very sharp edges. It also shot a full 2' under POA at 30 yards.
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Old February 26, 2013, 12:08 AM   #38
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Old February 26, 2013, 01:24 AM   #39
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Smith & Wesson SD40 and Llama Mini Max single stack .45acp. Both were horribly unreliable with the SD40 taking top slot. Others may have had betterluck but those are my biggest POS firearms to date.
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Old February 26, 2013, 01:40 AM   #40
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Keltec pf-9. Jammed every 3 to 4 rounds, sold it for a muzzleloader.
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Old February 26, 2013, 01:51 AM   #41
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The Helwan Brigadier??
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Old February 26, 2013, 08:30 AM   #42
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Beretta 9000S & Lorcin .380. The two I have personal experiences with. Poor design & crappy materials.
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Old February 26, 2013, 04:53 PM   #43
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Sccy 9mm. Not really a bad gun. I just could never get into it. Didn't like the trigger pull, I also got the skin on my hands punched a lot seating the magazine. It's gone thankfully.
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Old February 26, 2013, 05:04 PM   #44
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I had a Kahr PM40 that had a FTF and ejected the magazine on almost every shot.
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Old February 26, 2013, 05:50 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Yung.gunr
Beretta 9000S
I hadn't thought about the 9000S until I read this post, but if their reputation for crumbling frames is true, this would certainly qualify the pistol as a contender for biggest POS from a major gunmaker during the last few decades.

Another contender that hasn't been mentioned is the S&W SW9M, the short-lived single-stack Sigma variant. I have no personal experience with the gun, but many longtime S&W enthusiasts regard this pistol with spite. Reasons include the clumsy and bizarre plastic squeeze-tab mag release, a field-stripping procedure that requires hammering out a pin(!), a tendency to jam frequently, and an alarmingly high breakage rate.

FWIW when I think POS, I tend not to think of a gun with a fundamentally sound design but poor build quality and an unusually high lemon rate (e.g. Helwans, certain off-brand M1911s); rather, I tend to think of guns with inherent design or construction flaws- guns that are unsafe to fire, ALWAYS break or wear out prematurely, simply won't ever feed or eject properly because [name of part] was designed poorly, etc.
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Old February 26, 2013, 06:04 PM   #46
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Old February 26, 2013, 06:24 PM   #47
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I once had a gen3 Glock 23 that was a total piece of crap.

Now, I'm a Glock fan boy, and I love glocks in general. I've had a few other 23's that were perfectly reliable. I just happened to have this ONE that was aweful. Couldn't make it through a full magazine without at least one jam... usually 2 or 3.

I tried all kinds of things... leaving it stock... different recoil spring... recoil buffer pad... extra power magazine springs... ejectors... extractors... nothing could make that dang thing run well. The most reliable combination I found was the extra power magazine spring from wolff, stainless guide rod with extra power spring, and stock everything else.

What a nightmare that thing was....

I had a Jennings JA-22 that was actually pretty reliable. It still jammed pretty on occaision as most 22's do... but I could get through a few of it's 6rd magazines with cci minimags.
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Old February 26, 2013, 06:35 PM   #48
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My personal worst- AMT Combat Government Model.

Overall bad designs- Colt All American 2000 and S&W Sigma .380.
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Old February 26, 2013, 06:40 PM   #49
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My vote would be for the COLT 2000. You had to shoot one to appreciate it. NOT.

I know the early Grendels were breakthru guns, but I'm not a big enthusiast for them, either.
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Old February 26, 2013, 06:50 PM   #50
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Colt AA2000.

And it was a shame. I really dug the concept of it. The execution of it was horrid.
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