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Old February 3, 2013, 11:58 PM   #26
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Personally, I would feel safer to just leave it in the car. I have to do that often anyway. Just keep it out of sight, as well as anything else of value, so no one sees a reason to break in the car, to start with.

Your gun is safer in the car then at the motel safe, probably. When I go to church, I can't legally wear my gun, but I want my gun when I go back home. There's really not much choice, but to leave it locked in the car out of sight. Other situations are similar.

It's the law of averages, and odds. Do I want to leave it in a safe at a motel, where someone already knows I have probably left something of value, or leave in a car among hundreds of others, on the whim that thieves with pick my car. Of course I don't drive a new or fancy car, either.
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Old February 4, 2013, 03:03 AM   #27
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you should be covered by HR 218

H.R. 218 NOW LAW
A Look at HR 218, The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004

Please Post in Your Headquarters

Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:18 p.m.

WASHINGTON - Today, in a Roosevelt Room Ceremony the bill which we have come to know simply as H.R. 218 was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

Also known as the "National Concealed Carry for Cops" legislation and the "Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004," this new law allows law enforcement officers to carry their weapons while off duty between states.

It is expected that guidance on this law will come down from the State Attorney General's Offices, and we strongly recommend that officers wait until such time before carrying their weapons over state lines.

We would like to offer some warnings for all to heed.

First, when in another state you will be subject to the use of force laws of that state. Additionally, the laws of arrest, self defense, and firearms in other states will be different and will govern any actions taken.

HR 218 will not be a defense to possessing hollow point bullets, carrying a weapon on a school campus, carrying a prohibited weapons, carrying a weapon in a casino, etc. Some of these scenarios are illegal in certain states. Know HR 218, but also know the laws of that state in which you intend to carry!

Second, and this goes double for uniformed officers, you have to identify yourself. You need to identify yourself by badge and by word. Officers who work primarily in uniform are the worst at this since they are not accustomed to identifying themselves at scenes. The uniform takes care of that. When identifying yourself, use the loudest voice possible so witnesses will hear you and be able to corroborate your account of the incident later.

Below we have provided a basic breakdown of the new law. We again caution that guidance should be sought by your agency and/or the Attorney General's Office before acting on the new HR 218 law. Consult the administration from your own agency regarding HR 218 before acting on it. Also, at the bottom of the page we have provided a link which will bring you to the actual text of the new law.

Okay, what is HR 218? individual who is a qualified law enforcement officer and who is carrying the identification required by subsection (d) may carry a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, subject to subsection (b).

For whom does HR 218 apply?

Read the Text of the June, 2005 NJ Attorney General Memo on HR 218

Read the Actual HR 218 Law

NJLawman Article New Jersey Addresses Carrying Out-of-State

This law applies to persons who meet the definition listed below of a "Qualified Law Enforcement Officer."

qualified law enforcement officer means an employee of a governmental agency who--

`(1) is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest;

`(2) is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;

`(3) is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency;

`(4) meets standards, if any, established by the agency which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm;

`(5) is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and
Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.
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Old February 24, 2013, 02:39 AM   #28
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The LEOSA point is worth reviewing. Note that a update was made by President Obama in 2010.
For general use & legal issues, I'd use .
I'd carry your firearm on you as much as you can while on your family vacation.
Do NOT leave it in your POV(privately owned vehicle) for extended periods & do not stay in cheap, low end hotels, resorts.
I've worked in a few chain, low price hotels in my metro area doing armed security. Guests get spun out a lot or upset when they leave weapons, jewels, high end cameras, laptops, tools, etc then gripe about security.
Gun safes or security devices are handy.
Get your weapons insured too. Keep the serial #(s) & a few digital images in your smart phone too. If you travel or are on a trip, it could assist LE if you report a theft or you have a use of force event.

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