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Old February 1, 2013, 11:29 AM   #26
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I believe the arrangement I described where the seller sends the gun through the buyer's FFL protects both buyer and seller. But I think that for the buyer to send off a postal money to a complete stranger on the internet protects the seller, but not the buyer at all. I would be comfortable sending the money order after an FFL at the seller's end has possession of the pistol, but don't want to pay an extra $25 for an extra step I believe is unnecessary.

I was pleased and maybe a little pleasantly surprised that the seller was so cooperative sending the gun before payment. He did look up the FFL on the ATF site, had a chat with him first, and had me send him a scan of the USPS MO.
I understand you're new on this forum, but really it's the way it is normally done- here and on all other forums of this type. I don't care how comfortable I am talking to an FFL on the phone, I'm not giving up the gun until I have the money in hand.

Would you send off any other piece of personal property without being paid? I don't see a gun as being different from anything else.

You are definitely taking a leap of faith. That is why you try to do all the due diligence you can, before agreeing to any deal.

The deal you were able to arrange is absolutely not the norm and most people would not agree to it. Do not be surprised if it does not happen that way again- you got lucky once.
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Old February 3, 2013, 12:24 AM   #27
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This wasn't a deal I made on the forum. It was a deal I made on Armslist, which I equate to Craigslist for potential for getting scammed.

I would be comfortable sending a piece of personal property to a legitimate business, especially one that I may have had some personal conversation with. An FFL I consider to be very legitimate because the long arm of the Fed is enforcing their legitimacy.

The last couple weeks I have been selling some other (non-gun-related) equipment on Ebay to complete strangers across the world with the added risk of Paypal trying to jack me every step of the way, so shipping something to an FFL seems like a great improvement over that.

But I understand and accept that in the gun trade world maybe that's not the way it's done.

It turns out I finally just found another gun I wanted at a distant pawn shop, of all places, and I paid by credit card, so I feel comfortable with the transaction.

But I am still trying to find the most safe method of doing a deal between anonymous strangers that don't even have a forum relationship between them.

So, again, I understand you wouldn't be comfortable shipping to an FFL, but why? What do you imagine going wrong?


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