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Old April 23, 2000, 07:08 PM   #1
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The title says it all!Would be used for home/car defense.My main concern w/this round is muzzle blast, as I've heard people say it's even loud w/ hearing protection on.So I can't imagine touching one of these of in a car or a bedroom.Recoil is less of an issue,would just like to know what it compares to,as I've heard anywhere from 124gr.+p 9mm all the way up to 10mm.Also,if anyone has any experience w/147gr. 357 loads, I would like to know if they have more or less recoil/muzzle blast than the 115/125gr. loads.The gun I would get for this round would be a glock 31,any comments on this as a launch platform is also appreciated.Thanks in advance...long shot!
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Old April 23, 2000, 07:23 PM   #2
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I owned a Glock 31 and had a Federal Arms .40S&W barrel for it. I did not notice difference in recoil, but the .357sig is much louder and has alot more muzzle blast.

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Old April 23, 2000, 07:24 PM   #3
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I have had a 31 for a while now .The muzzle blast is a non issue.It is louder than some other loads but not that much louder.I have been using this round for range work and self defense and find it accurate and very controllable.It does have more recoil than a 9 or 40 but that is to be expected. As for using one in a car ,That is something you would have to face with a 40 or a 45.Id trade a little hearing damage for my life any day!

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Old April 23, 2000, 09:45 PM   #4
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Here's my opinion:
If recoil and muzzle blast were big issues in self-defense firearms,
everyone would carry a .22 Short.

My point is that there are much more important criteria to consider.
Is it reasonably powerful (>.380) and can you make relatively rapid accurate hits with it.
It is very unlikely that you will notice the recoil or noise in a stress-shooting.
From what I've heard, many cops involved in shootings don't remember hearing the gun go off.
Recoil is a consideration only in the aspect that if it is too great follow-up shots will be more difficult.
But, most popular self-defense loads, regardless of caliber, are fairly similar in recoil.
38's, 357s, 9s, 10s, 40s, 45s are all in the middle.
22s, 25s, 32s, 380s are at the low end.
41mag, 44mag, 50AE, 454, 475, etc, are uncommon self-defense calibers and are all at the upper end of the recoil spectrum.

Pick a gun/caliber combo that you can shoot quickly and accurately, and don't worry about the noise.

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Old April 23, 2000, 10:30 PM   #5
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recoil and muzzle blast are comparable to the hot 135gr (CorBon...) .40sw loads, very manageable compared to .357 mag. it does seem to be a little louder than the .40, but not that much.
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Old April 23, 2000, 11:07 PM   #6
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The blast is supposed to be loud, but when I fired it outside next to my 9mm with no hearing protection on, they sounded the same. On the other hand, my shortbarreled .45 fired at the same place was damn loud and made my ears ring for a week. The .45 was FAR louder than the .357 Sig. I have deduced that the .357 Sig just ain't all that loud. I got no ear ringing or anything from it.

The recoil is like a light .40.

It does have what I call "muzzle blast" though, which I have trouble defining because it is NOT recoil, and not noise. It just has a distinct "crack" to the sound. It makes it fun to shoot!
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Old April 24, 2000, 02:10 AM   #7
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jdthaddeous, I own an antique ear trumpet from circa 1785-1795. It is in pristine condition and has a historical record as to linneage(no B.S.).It is valued at roughly $1500-$2500 at auction.I'll let you steal it for $1250 if you promise not to never,ever,ever fire a pistol/rifle without E/E (eye/ear) protection again. You will lose on the investment though.YOU WILL NEED IT TO HEAR ANYTHING!!!
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Old April 24, 2000, 03:45 AM   #8
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I love the 357sig. It have more recoil than a 9mm+p+ and 180 grain 40 but less than the full power 155 and 165 grain 40's. It is very easy to shoot well. It is only a little louder than the 40 not enough to notice. My faviorate 357 sig is my glock 31 and I own 4 357 sigs. The glock's rifling gives it some of the highests velocitys that I have recorded in this caliber. I have chroned speer gold dots at 1490 in my 31


I intend to go into harms way.
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Old April 24, 2000, 05:18 AM   #9
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If you are on a range than wear hearing protection. If you actually fire the weapon at someone you probably not hear the weapon anyway.
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Old April 24, 2000, 05:34 AM   #10
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As far as sturm und drang goes, my G33 is very similar in felt recoil and pyrotechnics to my G29 10mm with anything short of the heaviest 10mm loads (Silvertips and on up). 135 and 155 grain CorBons in the G29 roughly equal to GoldDots in the G33: although the smaller round has less actual recoil energy, there's less pistol to soak it up and less grip area to hold on to...

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