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Old November 6, 2012, 03:31 AM   #1
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H&K not making H&K MP5 why?

Why doesn't H&K re-make the MP5 but in semi auto? nice gun, would love to get one.
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Old November 6, 2012, 03:47 AM   #2
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I dont know. Maybe its such a niche market that they feel its filled by the $2500 USC. Maybe its political. The MP5 is pretty much as ubiquitous as the AK-47.

I dont feel like its very niche. I would like one.
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Old November 6, 2012, 04:11 AM   #3
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Why? Because others are already doing it.

Lets not forget the laws in Germany, if I recall they have some kind of regulations preventing that among our own stipulations and regulations that prevent such things as well.

Someone more knowledgeable on this please correct me if I'm wrong
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Old November 6, 2012, 08:09 AM   #4
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2 reasons.

- The MP5 is much more expensive and time consuming to make than the UMP series. HK is there to make money, they will not make as much money on a MP5 as they do a UMP.

- The laws in Germany prevent guns of that type being produced for civlian consumption without some serious modifications. Look at the specs for the MR223 (the European version of the HK416/MR556)

That being said, the MP5 is the coolest full auto gun that I have ever shot. (I have never gotten to try a UMP)
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Old November 6, 2012, 09:24 AM   #5
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Old November 6, 2012, 01:25 PM   #6
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It would be very expensive to make, and very expensive to buy. They would have to make all, or bring to the US, the tooling to produce the weapons. They don't think that the amount of sales justifies the expense.
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Old November 6, 2012, 02:03 PM   #7
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It's an old design, the demand for the MP5 has waned significantly. Most SWAT teams here in the US have moved to M4 variants...
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Old November 6, 2012, 02:22 PM   #8
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I'm not seeing a big market for a semiauto MP5 with a 16" barrel in the US at HK prices. And that's assuming they make it here; it wouldn't be importable as it is.

Pistol caliber carbines aren't all that big a market anyway. Despite the claimed interest on the internet, they just don't sell all that much. Hi Point manages to make a go of it thanks to the low price and Beretta manages to get interest in their Storm carbine, but the Beretta just doesn't seem to be all that terribly popular either.

It seems that buyers, if they're going to deal with the size and weight of a longarm, decide to go ahead and get something that shoots a rifle round.
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Old November 7, 2012, 09:10 AM   #9
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Maybe because they didn't sell enough/make enough profit back when they did make HK-94s?
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Old November 7, 2012, 10:58 AM   #10
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It was banned from importation, by name, by the US Government. That was back in '89. Since then, there has been other laws; both in Germany and the US that make it financially unfeasible to do so. HK has since moved on to other projects but the MP5 and the roller-locked platform is a bit like the McLaren F1: It's so good that even the factory can't make a better one. A true icon.
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