357 magnum rifle load data

marklyftogt · September 17, 2012, 05:02 PM

I am having a real hard time finding rifle load data for 357 magnum.

Don't see much here and powder manufactures do not seem to have much.

What is a good manual(s) or another good source?

Thanks

mehavey · September 17, 2012, 05:32 PM

Hornady, Lyman (both the 49th and their Cast Bullet Hndbk) & Sierra all have 357 rifle sections -- the biggest real difference being the use of slower-burning powders.

kraigwy · September 17, 2012, 05:35 PM

I load my Marlin '94 in 357 with the same 357 loads I use for my pistol.

mehavey · September 17, 2012, 06:21 PM

Does the OP want to any particular bullet/jacketed or cast?

marklyftogt · September 17, 2012, 07:38 PM

looking for cast 158 gr lrn or lswc

SHR970 · September 17, 2012, 07:48 PM

Is the OP loading for a Marlin w/ microgroove rifling? If so, full throttle loads with slow powders will likely result in poor accuracy due to bullet stripping when using cast or especially swaged lead bullets.

Just something to think about.

That said, all you need to do is use pistol data...the slower the powder used, the greater the velocity increase will be as a general rule. "Rifle Specific" data tends to favor the med.-slow to slow powders.

marklyftogt · September 17, 2012, 07:55 PM

This would be for a win 1892 short.

hodaka · September 17, 2012, 08:05 PM

I'd recommend Unique or Trailboss with pistol loads. If you switch to jacketed bullets 296, 110 or 2400. Your velocities will be a bit higher than with a handgun.

mehavey · September 17, 2012, 08:11 PM

For rifle, I've settled on VN110 w/ a BearTooth 185 and a Montana 160:

1892Winchester/357Mag/20" barrel
MontanaBulletWorks 160 LFNGC
Viht-N110/15.0gr
CCI-500
StarLine Case
OAL:1.613"
QL= 26,776 psi/1,743fps

Read thee specifics and the limitations of this load here:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...0&postcount=11

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YARDDOG(1) · September 17, 2012, 08:32 PM

Unique Powder
6.2gr= 1233-FPS Low end

7.5gr=1385-FPS Max

Speer cases & CCI 500 Primers
Marli Mdl 94 18-1/2" Barrel & a 1 in 16 twist.

PS This load info is out of a One Load/One caliber Book & dos'nt give COL
Y/D

buck460XVR · September 17, 2012, 08:34 PM

The same loads that shoot well outta my revolvers also shoot very well outta my carbines. This is in both .357 and .44 mag. Only difference in most manuals from rifle loads and revolver loads is that light loads using fast powders are generally not used in the rifles. I tend to stick with loads that chrono above 850fps outta my revolvers for use in my carbines to avoid the risk of stickin' a bullet.

jmortimer · September 17, 2012, 09:30 PM

Do you have a 92 OR 94 or other? Here is link to fantastic article from Paco Kelly's Lever Guns web site entitled "357 MAGNUM AND THE LITERATURE" -
http://leverguns.com/articles/paco/3...literature.htm
He pushes the limits.

September 17, 2012, 05:02 PM	#1
marklyftogt Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2012 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 138	357 magnum rifle load data I am having a real hard time finding rifle load data for 357 magnum. Don't see much here and powder manufactures do not seem to have much. What is a good manual(s) or another good source? Thanks

September 17, 2012, 05:35 PM	#3
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	I load my Marlin '94 in 357 with the same 357 loads I use for my pistol. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

September 17, 2012, 08:32 PM	#10
YARDDOG(1) Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: GATOR COUNTRY HA HA HA! Posts: 721	Unique Powder 6.2gr= 1233-FPS Low end 7.5gr=1385-FPS Max Speer cases & CCI 500 Primers Marli Mdl 94 18-1/2" Barrel & a 1 in 16 twist. PS This load info is out of a One Load/One caliber Book & dos'nt give COL Y/D __________________ There's a GATOR in the bushes & She's Callin my name >Molly Hatchett<

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September 17, 2012, 05:32 PM	#2
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,883	Hornady, Lyman (both the 49th and their Cast Bullet Hndbk) & Sierra all have 357 rifle sections -- the biggest real difference being the use of slower-burning powders.

September 17, 2012, 06:21 PM	#4
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,883	Does the OP want to any particular bullet/jacketed or cast?

September 17, 2012, 07:38 PM	#5
marklyftogt Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2012 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 138	looking for cast 158 gr lrn or lswc

September 17, 2012, 07:48 PM	#6
SHR970 Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Posts: 1,427	Is the OP loading for a Marlin w/ microgroove rifling? If so, full throttle loads with slow powders will likely result in poor accuracy due to bullet stripping when using cast or especially swaged lead bullets. Just something to think about. That said, all you need to do is use pistol data...the slower the powder used, the greater the velocity increase will be as a general rule. "Rifle Specific" data tends to favor the med.-slow to slow powders.

September 17, 2012, 07:55 PM	#7
marklyftogt Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2012 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 138	This would be for a win 1892 short.

September 17, 2012, 08:05 PM	#8
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	I'd recommend Unique or Trailboss with pistol loads. If you switch to jacketed bullets 296, 110 or 2400. Your velocities will be a bit higher than with a handgun.

September 17, 2012, 08:11 PM	#9
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,883	For rifle, I've settled on VN110 w/ a BearTooth 185 and a Montana 160: 1892Winchester/357Mag/20" barrel MontanaBulletWorks 160 LFNGC Viht-N110/15.0gr CCI-500 StarLine Case OAL:1.613" QL= 26,776 psi/1,743fps Read thee specifics and the limitations of this load here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...0&postcount=11 .

September 17, 2012, 08:34 PM	#11
buck460XVR Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2006 Posts: 4,342	The same loads that shoot well outta my revolvers also shoot very well outta my carbines. This is in both .357 and .44 mag. Only difference in most manuals from rifle loads and revolver loads is that light loads using fast powders are generally not used in the rifles. I tend to stick with loads that chrono above 850fps outta my revolvers for use in my carbines to avoid the risk of stickin' a bullet.

September 17, 2012, 09:30 PM	#12
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	Do you have a 92 OR 94 or other? Here is link to fantastic article from Paco Kelly's Lever Guns web site entitled "357 MAGNUM AND THE LITERATURE" - http://leverguns.com/articles/paco/3...literature.htm He pushes the limits.