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Old March 29, 2012, 09:01 AM   #26
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thanks dacaur

no one else has info for bullseye in anything over 130 gr, and most top out at 115
I am assembling from on hand stock of powder, primers etc. Only the lead was new. Not the best way but as long as in specs I will give it a go.

This first batch is a learning process also, so not expecting perfect recipe.
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Old March 29, 2012, 06:45 PM   #27
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45 Colt with 19.9 and 20.7gr H110 under a 300gr XTP failed to ignite with WLP primers.

45 Colt with 20.6 to 22gr Ramshot Enforcer under 260gr SWC didn't ignite with Wolf LP primers.

357 Mag with 16.9 to 17.8gr Enforcer under 125gr SJHP did not ignite with Winchester SP primers.
Hmm, you said you had problems with w296....
I've tried 10% load reduction with W296 and had some that didn't light off with mag primers.
But of those you listed,
the 45 colt ramshot load may have been divine intervention since even 19.9gr would be over the maximum recomended even for a ruger, the max listed by ramshot for a 225gr bullet is 23.5gr, so if you are stuffing 22gr under a 300gr bullet.....
the 357 mag load with enforcer is right in the ramshot recomended range, so I dont know what going down 10% would have to do with that one?
and the h110 45 colt load you list is below the starting load recomended by hodgdon... The rule is, start at the recomended starting load, but IF NONE IS LISTED go down 10% from max..... Going below the starting load is, in many cases, asking for trouble.
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Old March 29, 2012, 08:01 PM   #28
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H110 and W296 are the same powder.

The Ramshot was under a 260gr Cast SWC and is safe in a Redhawk.

I look at more load data than just what Hodgdon posts online.

The bottom line is to be careful when reloading and maintain awarenesswhen using slow ball powders that are more difficult to ignite. On a few occasions the bullet and a clump of powder wound up an inch or so into the barrel.

From Ramshot email:
We suggest the following.

A standard LP primer will work.

Caliber: .45 Colt (LC)

Application: 30000psi level = Stronger weapons i.e. Ruger, Colt, Dan Wesson, Freedom arms.

Barrel length: 6” --- for longer barrels add the following % to the published velocity values below):

Ø 10” barrels add +/- 10%

Ø 20” barrels add +/- 20% on velocity)

Caution: Cases must be of modern recent manufacture and rated for high pressures.

Powder: Ramshot - ENFORCER. (1st Choice)

Bullet weight: 260 grains.

Start load: 20.3 grains (1175 – 1250 ft/p/sec)

Maximum load: 22.5 grains (1300 – 1350 Ft/p/sec).

It’ important to note that SAFETY is our prime concern therefore we strongly recommend.

1. TO ALWAYS BEGIN LOADING AT THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM “START” LOAD and develop loads in 2% increments towards the MAXIMUM load.

2. If at all possible, measure the velocity and correlate with our data.
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Old March 29, 2012, 08:57 PM   #29
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"So, while what you're saying is generally true, it's not universally true."

Sooo...what bit of published reloading data would you suggest IS "universally true?"
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Old March 29, 2012, 09:42 PM   #30
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Hum, kind of powder not important. I'm on the wrong site...
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Old March 30, 2012, 02:35 PM   #31
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Why would you think the type of powder he plans to use would be important in answering the OP's original question, which was, basicaly, "can I use load data for hollowpoints when loading spire points?" and/or "can I use the data from the speer manual for other brands of bullets?"
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Old March 31, 2012, 06:31 AM   #32
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Well, dumb O me. Oh yea, NOT ALL POWDERS ARE LISTED IN ALL BOOKS. He may want to go to the manufactures site to get information. But yes you are right nothing really maters when it comes to reloading it is just a personal choice.
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