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NDEBT · February 25, 2012, 06:15 PM

I was directed here from a motorcycle forum I've been a member of for a long time. I aquired a shotgun I know nothing about and hope you members can help. It is 16ga damascus barrel and seems to be well made. Here are some pics.

oneounceload · February 25, 2012, 06:28 PM

Name, pics of the proof marks, etc from the underneath will help

NDEBT · February 25, 2012, 06:41 PM

Not much else on it. the proof marks are hard to see. No name or date on the gun.

shortwave · February 25, 2012, 08:14 PM

Is there any markings under the butt-plate? Either on the stock or butt-plate itself.

Almost forgot, Welcome to TFL.

oneounceload · February 25, 2012, 08:17 PM

If you take the forearm off, and the the barrels, there should be proof marks on the barrel flats and also on the action water table
The under lever gun was made in a few countries, Damascus barrels will date the gun pre 1900 for the most part

NDEBT · February 25, 2012, 09:55 PM

Boncrayon · February 25, 2012, 10:07 PM

Wow! Beautiful atrifact. Don't fire it as the Domascus barrel could come appart with heavy load. Keep it for the memories and for display. Clean it well and do not remove the darkened finish. Cover the metal parts after cleaning with RemOil and Baracade to preserve its valor. Truly a beautiful and historical piece!

Herr Walther · February 25, 2012, 10:08 PM

Are there any marks over the 'V' or 'JD' that the camera didn't pick up?

These and the numbers are not in themselves proof marks. Most proof marks are a letter and some sort of symbol, be it a crown, eagle, or other symbol.

Shotguns of this era, depending upon country of origin, will have the proof standard stamped on the barrel(s) in grains of powder/grains of shot, along with the proof mark.

Keep looking. There is something there somewhere. I would start with a magnifying glass as some of these can be pretty small.

Can you get a better shot of the image in post #3? This is probably your proof mark. I might be able to at least identify the country of origin if you can get a good photo of it posted.

NDEBT · February 25, 2012, 10:36 PM

There is a SC stamp you cant see in that pic.

NDEBT · February 26, 2012, 12:51 PM

Thanks for all the help. I'm new to the forum should I post this in the relics section for more info?

jimbob86 · February 26, 2012, 01:02 PM

Ask here:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19

NDEBT · March 3, 2012, 11:57 PM

I think I may be addicted to these two barreled guns. I went to a gun show today with the sole intent to sell the old 16 ga for something I could shoot. I had a price in my head and it I got an offer for that it was sold. That was the plan but I did get offered that and more but I could not let it go and ended up buying another one

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Nothing special really a Ithaca made 12 ga It shoots very well and it fits me very good I love it.

February 25, 2012, 06:15 PM	#1
NDEBT Junior Member Join Date: February 25, 2012 Posts: 7	Newb I was directed here from a motorcycle forum I've been a member of for a long time. I aquired a shotgun I know nothing about and hope you members can help. It is 16ga damascus barrel and seems to be well made. Here are some pics.

February 25, 2012, 09:55 PM	#6
NDEBT Junior Member Join Date: February 25, 2012 Posts: 7	Meen anything?

February 25, 2012, 10:07 PM	#7
Boncrayon Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2008 Posts: 920	Newb Wow! Beautiful atrifact. Don't fire it as the Domascus barrel could come appart with heavy load. Keep it for the memories and for display. Clean it well and do not remove the darkened finish. Cover the metal parts after cleaning with RemOil and Baracade to preserve its valor. Truly a beautiful and historical piece!

February 25, 2012, 10:08 PM	#8
Herr Walther Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: A Place Worse than California Posts: 782	Are there any marks over the 'V' or 'JD' that the camera didn't pick up? These and the numbers are not in themselves proof marks. Most proof marks are a letter and some sort of symbol, be it a crown, eagle, or other symbol. Shotguns of this era, depending upon country of origin, will have the proof standard stamped on the barrel(s) in grains of powder/grains of shot, along with the proof mark. Keep looking. There is something there somewhere. I would start with a magnifying glass as some of these can be pretty small. Can you get a better shot of the image in post #3? This is probably your proof mark. I might be able to at least identify the country of origin if you can get a good photo of it posted. __________________ "It was people who upheld their duties to their office, the constitution, and the public by opposing Hitler who were called traitors" ------------------------------------- "...a historian asked what had happened to the German people for them to accept a criminal government. Unfortunately, nothing needed to happen. In nations across the world people accept government crime." ------------------------------------- "In democracies as well as dictatorships, subordinates illegally obey their rulers. Subordinates who remain true to their oaths of office by opposing their rulers are rare."

March 3, 2012, 11:57 PM	#12
NDEBT Junior Member Join Date: February 25, 2012 Posts: 7	I think I may be addicted to these two barreled guns. I went to a gun show today with the sole intent to sell the old 16 ga for something I could shoot. I had a price in my head and it I got an offer for that it was sold. That was the plan but I did get offered that and more but I could not let it go and ended up buying another one. Nothing special really a Ithaca made 12 ga It shoots very well and it fits me very good I love it.

February 25, 2012, 06:28 PM	#2
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Name, pics of the proof marks, etc from the underneath will help

February 25, 2012, 06:41 PM	#3
NDEBT Junior Member Join Date: February 25, 2012 Posts: 7	Not much else on it. the proof marks are hard to see. No name or date on the gun.

February 25, 2012, 08:14 PM	#4
shortwave Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2007 Location: SOUTHEAST, OHIO Posts: 5,970	Is there any markings under the butt-plate? Either on the stock or butt-plate itself. Almost forgot, Welcome to TFL.

February 25, 2012, 08:17 PM	#5
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	If you take the forearm off, and the the barrels, there should be proof marks on the barrel flats and also on the action water table The under lever gun was made in a few countries, Damascus barrels will date the gun pre 1900 for the most part

February 25, 2012, 10:36 PM	#9
NDEBT Junior Member Join Date: February 25, 2012 Posts: 7	There is a SC stamp you cant see in that pic.

February 26, 2012, 12:51 PM	#10
NDEBT Junior Member Join Date: February 25, 2012 Posts: 7	Thanks for all the help. I'm new to the forum should I post this in the relics section for more info?

February 26, 2012, 01:02 PM	#11
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	Ask here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19