Mauser 98 "Sporterized" - Page 2

8MM Mauser · October 18, 2011, 03:57 PM

Handloading is really intereting to me; however, as I am a full time student with a full time job and a baby daughter who doesn't like to sleep through the night yet, it'll have to wait a couple years. Thanks for the shooting tips!
I plan on doing plenty of dry fir exercises as I'm only able to make it to the range about once a month.
Thanks for all the advice!

lead head · October 18, 2011, 04:00 PM

I like to target practice with the Prvi Partizan ammo. For hunting I prefer the Sellier & Bellot ammo. 196 gr leaving the muzzle at 2,591 fps with 2,923 ft/lbs of energy. I think the 8mm really shines at the 2,500 fps range.

8MM Mauser · October 22, 2011, 02:18 PM

Took the Mauser out to the range today, sited in at 50 yards.

First pic is at 50 yards. E was my sight in target. F was my first couple shots not on the bench. The I shot at, in order, D, H, E, and B. I kept switching circles so it didn't get too easy on me,

The holes in A and C are from the nails, not shots.

Second Pic. is at 100 yards. Shots labeled "1" are the first five rounds. The bottom two shots were fired so I could see the difference between where my scope was aimed and where it hit. The others were taken with that adjustment considered. Shots labeled "2" are from the second five rounds, the fifth bullet was fired at a clay target on the top left corner of the backstop, it was not a miss.

In addition to this, I fired off about 40 rounds at bottles, cans, and clays. I seem to be less anxious when aiming at an object, and i think i do better, i consistently hit objects smaller than the groups im shooting. I hit 35 out of 40 of the bottles/clays/cans. Of the five misses on trash, three were fired at a used shotgun shell. I didn't hit the shell. The two other misses were fired at a paper cup that may have simply been too light to knock over. However, overall, I was very happy with the results of todays range trip. The ammo fired was Prvi Partizan, and I was very happy with it! Made cleaning the rifle MUCH easier than after shooting that surplus crap. This is a great rifle and I thank you all for your help and information. I feel as though I am ready to hit a deer. Now the only question is how to make the time to get out in the woods!
Thanks everyone.

8MM Mauser · October 22, 2011, 02:20 PM

I'll have to give that Sellier & Bellot ammo a try before hunting season. Thanks for the advice.

Jimro · October 23, 2011, 01:08 AM

Well you won't win any benchrest competitions with those groups, but you'll hit the boilermaker of a deer just fine. Keep up the practice and good hunting!

Jimro

8MM Mauser · October 23, 2011, 07:54 AM

Thanks! I feel pretty decent about the groups considering I've probably fired less than 500 rounds of anything my entire life, and less than 200 through this gun. I have no trainign from anyone and I practice like once a month and, as you stated, they are good enough to hit a deer in the vitals, which meets my purpose.
You should have seen the guy who came to the range with me. At 100 yards he missed the target 40% of the time, made several shots into the outer rings and managed two shots on the bullseye. Weird

. He was so excited, I didn't have the heart to explain to him that his utter lack of repeatability would make it hard for him to count on a shot like that. Most of his shots were at least 8 inches from the center. Oh well, hopefully when it's a deer in his sights he'll make one of the good shots.
Thanks for all the advice everyone!

boyson20g · September 19, 2012, 04:06 PM

My brother and I just recently purchased a sporterized 8mm Mauser...dad owns a 7mm that was sporterized back in the '50's. The old man's is a Span-Am war era that has beautiful rifling (after 100 years) to this day! Probably has had less than 1000 rounds through it as we pretty much only use it for hunting. It has been shortened and had a monte carlo style stock installed. It is a tack driver, for sure! HOWEVER...the 8mm we just got has been fairly modified. More so than the 7mm! It has a custom carved stock and someone spent a bit of money to have a beautiful set trigger installed. Pics of both (side by side after this weekend!) to follow soon. Man, i love old Mausers!

PetahW · September 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

For those who couldn't view the OP's link, here's his rifle:

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Hunter Customs · September 20, 2012, 08:48 AM

I have two 8mm Mausers one is a semi custom the other is a full custom made by a very taleneted rifle smith.
I could blindfold anyone, hand them ten different rifles, and when the full custom 8mm was in their hands they would be able to pick it out from all the others.
This gun is so sweet it makes everything else feel like your holding a 2x4 in your hands.

The 8mm can be handloaded to give 30-06 performance.

8MM Mauser, keep practicing you have one fine rifle that will make you an excellent deer rifle.
I tip my hat to your Grandad, I would say he's a fine gentleman that cares about his Grandson and did an excellent job in building you a great rifle.

Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com

jimbob86 · September 20, 2012, 09:43 AM

I see the pic now..... looks like the custom stock was made for the scope!

Very Nice!

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Handloading is really intereting to me; however, as I am a full time student with a full time job and a baby daughter who doesn't like to sleep through the night yet, it'll have to wait a couple years.

Save your brass!!!!!..... think of is as quarters- if you dropped a quarter, you'd pick it up, right? It's actually worth more than that, as brass from your gun is fireformed to your gun's chamber..... no other brass fists as well. New unfired brass for 8mm Mauser can run 50 cents/ea to as much as a dollar....

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Thanks for all the advice!

There's more where that came from, and worth at least what you pay for it!

You need a sling. I suggest one of these:

For the budget minded:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/LEG-193

I use these:

http://www.cabelas.com/gun-slings-tr...-sling-1.shtml

If money is burning a hole in your pocket and you want the best:

http://www.turnersling.com/index.html

A primer on sling use:

http://carnival.saysuncle.com/001086.html

Have fun!

sc928porsche · September 22, 2012, 03:42 PM

When you go to get your sling, do yourself a favor and get a set of Uncle Mikes detachable swivels for it. They will usually fit existing swivel mounts. If they dont, no need to worry, the swivels come with mounts.

Major Dave (retired) · September 29, 2012, 01:14 PM

Buy a better scope - the Simmons scope line is considered to be somewhat minimal.

Since you are still a student, with a baby girl who doesn't sleep through the night, yet, I'm sure you don't have the funds to do any upgrades for now.

When the time comes, I would suggest a Leupold VX 2, for about $300.

Or, for about $200, a used Leupold Vari-XII.

Note that the "Vari-X I, II, and III" series is the oldest Leupold Series, the "VX-I, II, and III" series is newer, and "VX 1, 2, and 3" series is the newest, best, and most expensive.

Even the oldest Leupold scope is better than a new Simmons. I know - I traded up from a Simmons ($125, new) to a Leupold Vari-X III ($225, used), for my .243 Win Model 70, and the difference is really noticeable.

Just some food for thought, for the future.

RC20 · September 30, 2012, 01:06 PM

With all due respect for the above, get a Redfield scope.

Leupold bought them out and they are very good glass, not as pretty nor some of the features of Leupold, but the Redfield is intended as a hunting scope which is what you need.

3-9 should do you fine (young and good eyes). Something around $200 and rebates leading up into the fall usually. Lifetime warranty on it.

Also, when you set it up, you want to be 2 inches high at 100 yards. That should give you spot on at 200 (or close, have not run an 8mm trajectory).

At 250 you are 2 or 3 inches low.

That means you can do a single aim point and hit so close as to not make any difference in a good shot (likely off a bit due to all the hunting factors of standing shot, out of breath a bit, excitement, animal movement).

That is one beautiful rifle.

Mauser barrels were easy to come by as many made them. Its the easiest gun to put a new barrel on as the head space is simple. Extremely strong action. Do not go overboard on re-loads. There are some weaknesses to the gun and depending on who made it.

You can rely on a standard load being ok. If you can get the receiver details that would be interesting (serial, any stamps and letters or numbers)

A lo of people will do a serial like 1,250XXX or some such. I just list them, not sure who would do what with the full one but if you are leary then the XX or XXX is fine as it gets close enough to know years and such.

October 18, 2011, 03:57 PM	#26
8MM Mauser Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 647	Handloading is really intereting to me; however, as I am a full time student with a full time job and a baby daughter who doesn't like to sleep through the night yet, it'll have to wait a couple years. Thanks for the shooting tips! I plan on doing plenty of dry fir exercises as I'm only able to make it to the range about once a month. Thanks for all the advice! Last edited by 8MM Mauser; October 18, 2011 at 04:28 PM. Reason: Spelling

October 18, 2011, 04:00 PM	#27
lead head Member Join Date: April 30, 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 27	I like to target practice with the Prvi Partizan ammo. For hunting I prefer the Sellier & Bellot ammo. 196 gr leaving the muzzle at 2,591 fps with 2,923 ft/lbs of energy. I think the 8mm really shines at the 2,500 fps range. __________________ The joy of a weapon.

October 23, 2011, 01:08 AM	#30
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	Well you won't win any benchrest competitions with those groups, but you'll hit the boilermaker of a deer just fine. Keep up the practice and good hunting! Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

September 19, 2012, 04:06 PM	#32
boyson20g Junior Member Join Date: September 19, 2012 Posts: 1	8mm My brother and I just recently purchased a sporterized 8mm Mauser...dad owns a 7mm that was sporterized back in the '50's. The old man's is a Span-Am war era that has beautiful rifling (after 100 years) to this day! Probably has had less than 1000 rounds through it as we pretty much only use it for hunting. It has been shortened and had a monte carlo style stock installed. It is a tack driver, for sure! HOWEVER...the 8mm we just got has been fairly modified. More so than the 7mm! It has a custom carved stock and someone spent a bit of money to have a beautiful set trigger installed. Pics of both (side by side after this weekend!) to follow soon. Man, i love old Mausers!

September 22, 2012, 03:42 PM	#36
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	When you go to get your sling, do yourself a favor and get a set of Uncle Mikes detachable swivels for it. They will usually fit existing swivel mounts. If they dont, no need to worry, the swivels come with mounts. __________________ No such thing as a stupid question. What is stupid is not asking it.

October 22, 2011, 02:20 PM	#29
8MM Mauser Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 647	I'll have to give that Sellier & Bellot ammo a try before hunting season. Thanks for the advice.

October 23, 2011, 07:54 AM	#31
8MM Mauser Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2011 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 647	Thanks! I feel pretty decent about the groups considering I've probably fired less than 500 rounds of anything my entire life, and less than 200 through this gun. I have no trainign from anyone and I practice like once a month and, as you stated, they are good enough to hit a deer in the vitals, which meets my purpose. You should have seen the guy who came to the range with me. At 100 yards he missed the target 40% of the time, made several shots into the outer rings and managed two shots on the bullseye. Weird . He was so excited, I didn't have the heart to explain to him that his utter lack of repeatability would make it hard for him to count on a shot like that. Most of his shots were at least 8 inches from the center. Oh well, hopefully when it's a deer in his sights he'll make one of the good shots. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

September 19, 2012, 04:37 PM	#33
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	For those who couldn't view the OP's link, here's his rifle: .

September 20, 2012, 08:48 AM	#34
Hunter Customs Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: Osborn, Missouri Posts: 2,697	I have two 8mm Mausers one is a semi custom the other is a full custom made by a very taleneted rifle smith. I could blindfold anyone, hand them ten different rifles, and when the full custom 8mm was in their hands they would be able to pick it out from all the others. This gun is so sweet it makes everything else feel like your holding a 2x4 in your hands. The 8mm can be handloaded to give 30-06 performance. 8MM Mauser, keep practicing you have one fine rifle that will make you an excellent deer rifle. I tip my hat to your Grandad, I would say he's a fine gentleman that cares about his Grandson and did an excellent job in building you a great rifle. Best Regards Bob Hunter www.huntercustoms.com

September 29, 2012, 01:14 PM	#37
Major Dave (retired) Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2008 Location: Between Dallas and Shreveport, LA Posts: 569	A suggestion for the future... Buy a better scope - the Simmons scope line is considered to be somewhat minimal. Since you are still a student, with a baby girl who doesn't sleep through the night, yet, I'm sure you don't have the funds to do any upgrades for now. When the time comes, I would suggest a Leupold VX 2, for about $300. Or, for about $200, a used Leupold Vari-XII. Note that the "Vari-X I, II, and III" series is the oldest Leupold Series, the "VX-I, II, and III" series is newer, and "VX 1, 2, and 3" series is the newest, best, and most expensive. Even the oldest Leupold scope is better than a new Simmons. I know - I traded up from a Simmons ($125, new) to a Leupold Vari-X III ($225, used), for my .243 Win Model 70, and the difference is really noticeable. Just some food for thought, for the future. __________________ Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be but a vulgar brawl.

September 30, 2012, 01:06 PM	#38
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	With all due respect for the above, get a Redfield scope. Leupold bought them out and they are very good glass, not as pretty nor some of the features of Leupold, but the Redfield is intended as a hunting scope which is what you need. 3-9 should do you fine (young and good eyes). Something around $200 and rebates leading up into the fall usually. Lifetime warranty on it. Also, when you set it up, you want to be 2 inches high at 100 yards. That should give you spot on at 200 (or close, have not run an 8mm trajectory). At 250 you are 2 or 3 inches low. That means you can do a single aim point and hit so close as to not make any difference in a good shot (likely off a bit due to all the hunting factors of standing shot, out of breath a bit, excitement, animal movement). That is one beautiful rifle. Mauser barrels were easy to come by as many made them. Its the easiest gun to put a new barrel on as the head space is simple. Extremely strong action. Do not go overboard on re-loads. There are some weaknesses to the gun and depending on who made it. You can rely on a standard load being ok. If you can get the receiver details that would be interesting (serial, any stamps and letters or numbers) A lo of people will do a serial like 1,250XXX or some such. I just list them, not sure who would do what with the full one but if you are leary then the XX or XXX is fine as it gets close enough to know years and such.