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Old August 24, 2011, 03:07 AM   #51
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Old August 24, 2011, 09:06 AM   #52
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I would imagine the most rugged handgun would be a 38 stainless S&W revolver of some sort. For semi autos, I've read three impressive torture test results: the G17 with over 300,000 rounds, M9 with over 165,000 rounds and (I can't remember which unit) a Marine unit that has a specialized 1911 issued that has had over 200,000 rounds through it. Those are all pretty impressive documented tests in my opinion.
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My vote for the most rugged semi-auto goes to the Smith & Wesson Model 945; runner-ups being just about any second or third generation Smith pistol.

As for revolvers, any one made by Ruger; whether sa or da.
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I don't claim to have tested all the pistols out there but I do have experience with the 1911a1. Quite a bit to be truthful.

I first qualified with one in 1966, didn't have any problems the first time. I carried one in SE Asia. I've crawled on my hands and knees in silt and mud (rice paddy mud is like clay) with a 1911a1 in my hand, sometimes I would give a flip of the wrist to shake off some of the excess mud, some times I wouldn't. It always worked.

I've carried one in the arctic where every thing froze up. Carrying them under your coat in a shoulder holster with the body heat, then as soon as it's exposed to the out side sub-zero temps, it would sweat and freeze AND FIRE. First round broke everything loose.

As to accuracy. I ran the AK NG Marksmanship Unit. Our Combat Teams were required to use "arms room guns" which means those old warn out, rattie 1911a1s. Some people couldn't shoot them, some could, (with training, all could). No matter how bad, a decent shooter could keep them in the 8 ring of a B27 style target at 50 yards.

I got mine in the mid 70's, made in 1942. I don't know how many rounds have been through it before I got it, but I've fired thousands of rounds of military hardball. Since I've retired and have to furnish my own ammo, its been cast RN bullets. It still works.

Granted, you have to concentrate on that little bitty front sight to hit anything. With my old eyes I have to use reading glasses. So I could keep shooting my 1911a1, I got the drug store glasses that allows me to focus on the front sight (instead of reading) and it works.

These old worn out guns will shoot if one only takes the time to learn to shoot them (pretty much the same for any gun).

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One man said it earlier. CZ 75, M9, M1911A1 I also know this through experience and not info gathering.
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Old August 24, 2011, 04:28 PM   #60
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What about a FREEDOM ARMS single action revolver? Everyone I talk to tells me that they are built like "bank vaults." After handling one, I have to agree that they look and feel extremely robust.

How do yall think a single action revolver like the Freedom Arms Model 83 would handle the dirt, mud, water, ice, sand, physical abuse, etc? Aren't they very hard and time-consuming to clean as well?
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I have had USP .45, Still have Glock 26, and a colt 80 series. I also just bought a sig 226, but have only shot it 65 rounds. I think any of these will fill the bill. I would trust any of these with my life.
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Old August 24, 2011, 05:53 PM   #64
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Old August 24, 2011, 06:21 PM   #65
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Super Redhawk. Those are some tough, tough guns. Too bad they're as ugly as mud fences.
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What's the most rugged handgun in the world?
I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find a thread that answers this question...
I know this is the semi-auto forum, but feel free to talk about DA/SA revolvers, etc.


It's actually the 'general handgun' forum.

This is obviously subjective, but for me I have put 10K through only one of my handguns (trap shooting has seen tens of thousands with my shotguns) and that's my Ruger P95.

However, my Taurus 92 will be there by this time next year (If we all don't go broke first)
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Old August 25, 2011, 03:54 AM   #67
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I'd have to cheat and say... The top three

1) USM1911A1

2) Glock (specifically the 19)

3) S&W Model 10/M&P Revolver.
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Old August 25, 2011, 04:24 AM   #68
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Im surprised no one mentioned the HK45.

M9's are great and all(DA aside) but again when you think rugged, you don't think "well maintained" in that part(which seems to be what every M9 voter says needs to be). If I want a gun that can take a beating and still make whatever I'm pointing at go dead when I need it to after being dropped in the dirt, mud, salt water, etc M9 is not what I have in mind.
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Old August 25, 2011, 04:38 AM   #69
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Hard one to answer but for me I will have to say the S&W Model 64 Revolver. The one I have has taken a lot of punches but never failed to perform well.
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Old August 25, 2011, 08:05 AM   #71
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Kind of depends on how you are defining "rugged"?

A mil-spec 1911 has to be at or near the top. I differentiate between the "mil-spec" or "duty" models in that there are plenty of 1911's made today with tighter tolerances and more fragile parts (sights among them) that just won't take the abuse or harsh conditions a service weapon would.

And the Glock with a majority of it's parts polymer or tennifer coated should qualify as "rugged" too.

I am pretty sure the "stainless steel" K & L framed S&W's and Rugers could take most any beating you could dish out and shoot just fine. Revolvers won the west and did plenty of service in several wars so you can't count them out.
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This gets my vote: "All guns will have their problems."
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Old August 25, 2011, 08:33 AM   #73
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I would have to go with a revolver. Either a S&W 686 or Ruger GP100 would work. These are rugged guns that are completely reliable in all conditions. No feeding, extracting, safety, or mag issues; just pull the trigger and they fire.
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Old August 25, 2011, 09:35 AM   #74
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Thank you Jeff45. I whole-heartedly agree that revolvers are much less failure prone than auto-loaders. Less things going on during the firing cycle, hence more reliable. As far as "rugged," I pose this: If you were to have fate deal some tremendous force upon your firearm (long drop, run over by truck, etc) and then be forced to use it, what would you want? Me, a Ruger revolver. They're tanks. Just my two slugs o' copper.
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Old August 25, 2011, 09:41 AM   #75
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