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Old August 22, 2011, 11:52 PM   #1
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Odd ball creatures being built. SKS/FAL Hybrids

Got this pics from here...
http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=54230.0
http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=57276.0











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Old August 22, 2011, 11:53 PM   #2
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Old August 23, 2011, 12:01 AM   #4
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Oh. My.

OK. It's all right. Once I get the magazine feed system working on my New Vaquero, I'll regain the title of "top amateur gun molester" .
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Old August 23, 2011, 01:33 AM   #5
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From the standpoint of handing out the...Oh Neat! award they are a contender and as far as a commercial product....doubtful, but then look how many permutations the M1 carbine went thru before they decided on the first production model.

Just think how many countries that contracted to build their own licensed version of the FN Battle rifle, how far ahead they would have been if they had of had someone inhouse to design or combine and adapt 2 designs to take advantage of tooling and expertise they already had to make a home grown product.

Man I wish I was mechanically inclined.
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Old August 23, 2011, 07:23 AM   #6
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A+ in the spiffy, pretty, and creative departments. F in the practical department - Those things can't be very accurate unless some very skilled and very time-consuming hand-fitting was done, and they're probably not cost/time-efficient... easier just to work a few hours overtime and buy the real thing.

Still, kudos the to the artists who made them happen! Always nice to see creativity applied in useful ways!
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Old August 23, 2011, 07:53 AM   #7
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Yuck! Marrying up a high-class FAL with a low-rent SKS - gotta be someone's idea of a sick joke. That sorta thing should be outlawed!
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Old August 23, 2011, 09:37 AM   #8
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Well, if you can do the work yourself, it gives you a novel platform for cheap ammo.
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Old August 23, 2011, 09:40 AM   #9
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Word is the guy working on these is looking tp get BATFE approval and sell them. If he can make them look like Chinese Type 81 Rifles then I would jump on one.

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Old August 23, 2011, 11:25 AM   #10
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I love the longer sight setup. Adjustable gas is a nice thought, but not a problem for me and my SKS.
If the price were right, and I knew I could replace parts as they wore out on my own, I might jump on it.
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Old August 23, 2011, 01:41 PM   #11
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I'm not sure if it's all THAT much like a FAL (I see the resemblance, but there's just a lot of difference).

Still, the different receiver blocks for the furniture attachment is at least a cooler mod than just tossing on a Tapco stock. Looks like a lot of work went into it and the result is kinda neat.
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Old August 23, 2011, 02:02 PM   #12
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What are the advantages of this over a FAL besides less expensive ammo?
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Old August 23, 2011, 03:15 PM   #13
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Looks like the inventor took all the heavy parts from both types of rifles and combined them to fire the less powerful 7.62x39. Sort of like combining a Browning BAR with an M1 Garand for the purpose of spitting out .223's. I'd say it's utility is about that of a belt-fed .223 semi-auto "assault" rifle.

I know...."Skans, stop hating on this rifle...." I just can't help it - I'm old school, where "hating" on ugly useless things wasn't bullying, just "quality control".
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Old August 23, 2011, 03:18 PM   #14
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I think they look AWESOME! and I want one.
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Old August 24, 2011, 07:46 PM   #15
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Just to make sure I'm tracking here...it's a FAL built around an SKS action? Also, is the magazine detachable? I'm impressed by your abilities to even make the idea a reality, well done.
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Old August 25, 2011, 01:42 AM   #16
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My first thought was, "What the 'smeg' is this guy smoking?"


But, then I got to thinking....

The pistol grip is a nice addition to an SKS.
The stock geometry is an improvement over the SKS's.
The detachable magazines appeal to a lot of people (though, not myself).
Feeding this hybrid is cheaper than feeding an FAL.

Give me this one at a decent price, with a 15-20 round box magazine, and I'd probably have to fight myself not to buy it:
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Old August 25, 2011, 02:17 AM   #17
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Looks pretty sweet I've gotta say. Very old-school European. Wondering how it performs however.
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Old August 25, 2011, 04:41 AM   #18
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It is an abomination and must be cast out of the company of men.
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Old August 25, 2011, 08:49 AM   #19
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I've never been for banning any guns, but the FAL-SKS mutt MUST BE BANNED! Its blasphemy.
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Old August 25, 2011, 10:04 AM   #20
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Meh, everyone knows the FAL is overpriced junk and can only be improved if SKS-ified!
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Old August 25, 2011, 03:18 PM   #21
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Meh, everyone knows the FAL is overpriced junk and can only be improved if SKS-ified!
I pitty the fool!!!!

(Oh, wait - gotta save that for when someone tries to marry an SKS and Mini-14 )
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Old August 25, 2011, 03:20 PM   #22
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Old August 25, 2011, 09:40 PM   #23
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I think the guy who invented this posted it on the forum way back.

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Give me this one at a decent price,
Got a time machine? SKS prices are around $300. FAL lowers are around $200. Then, you need 922r parts. And then labor.

For the price, I don't think it would necessarily be the best choice.
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Old August 26, 2011, 05:22 PM   #24
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I like the ingenuity, I appreciate the skill, and it's great to see some original thinking.

Would I buy one? Probably not, but that doesn't mean it's not neat.
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Old September 9, 2011, 09:14 AM   #25
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I got to say, I like it. Not that I'd replace my real FALs, you can't compare 7.62x39 to 7.62x51 for power and range, but it looks like a nice addition to the collection if it's reliable.

Really, the SKS action is not much different than the FAL. Both use a tilting bolt. Both headspace the same way. Both use a top mounted gas tube with a tappet. The SKS's gas system is just not adjustable like the FAL's though.

Marrying the FAL to the SKS looks like it gives the SKS a better trigger design, pistol grip, and better sights. Plus is that an adjustable gas system on there?

On top of that, it looks like you get AK mags which are probably the best rifle mags in the world.

Again, not improving the FAL, but definitely an improvement for the SKS (if it works reliably). If it was me though, I'd have put the bolt handle on the left side and it needs a custom FAL lower that fits better.
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