High Standard Sentinel Mk IV .22WMR

RagingBull · August 2, 2011, 10:17 PM

Just picked this up for a nice little pocket gun.

DA trigger is heavy as expected. SA trigger, while still heavier than others, breaks cleanly with nearly indistinguishable creep. Cylinder is tight, rifling is great.

All in all, a nice gun in good shape. Paid $250 for it. Probably about what it's worth, but didn't buy it to turn a profit. To me....it's a keeper.

What y'all think?

RagingBull · August 2, 2011, 10:18 PM

TheNocturnus · August 2, 2011, 10:29 PM

Very cool, I like it. Looks like it has some rusting on it though, clean that beauty up and take her to the range. Can it also shoot .22 lr or just .22 mag?

RagingBull · August 2, 2011, 10:41 PM

.22 LR is a no-no. Case and (especially) rim diameter on LR is smaller than WMR rounds. However, I was pointed to some "short barrel" WMR ammo that is shorter and has less powder charge for that short barrel, but still WMR caliber. Just ordered a box of defense ammo for it.

Will fire it then give her a full cleanup and take and post some more pics.

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TheNocturnus · August 2, 2011, 10:53 PM

So no .22lr then. I just got a 9 shot revolver recently myself. It is a H&R model 929 .22lr.

Heres a pic:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...4&d=1311998068

RagingBull · August 3, 2011, 06:06 AM

Not a bad looking piece there. Good shooter?? Looks like it should be pretty accurate with that barrel.

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hornetguy · August 3, 2011, 07:12 AM

I'll bet it's LOUD!

I'll really be interested to see what kind of muzzle velocities you are getting from it. Will you chronograph it, or just shoot for groups?

I had forgotten that High Standard made those.. I'll bet that would be a sweet little trail gun with a 4" barrel..

22-rimfire · August 3, 2011, 10:24 AM

Hope you enjoy the HS 22 mag. Let us know how it shoots.

BrittB · August 3, 2011, 11:27 AM

How are High Standard's pistols in general? Like them, hate them? This one looks pretty darn nice for what it is.

RagingBull · August 3, 2011, 06:37 PM

Hornetguy......don't have a chrony, so I'll just be shooting for groups at about 21 feet. Going to use two or three different types of ammo, including some "short barrel" (lower power) rounds just ordered from Midway.

With a tiny 2" barrel, it should be flashy and loud even with the short barrel ammo.

Will let you all know how it goes. Hope to shoot some video.

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RagingBull · August 3, 2011, 07:06 PM

So far....have shot one round in my back yard. (about all I dare try in my neighborhood) Using CCI Maxi Mag FMJ 40 grain rounds. Was not as loud as expected.
Not sure yet of accuracy since it was just a shot in the dirt.

Have found, however, that occasionally.....whether SA or DA......the cylinder locks and will not allow cycling. Did not do this the day I bought it and upon further testing, does not do this on a regular basis. Only occasionally.

Could this be a timing problem starting to rear it's ugly head?

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Jim March · August 3, 2011, 07:26 PM

HS made some very respectable guns circa 1950s-1960s-early '70s. I'd rather have one than a modern Taurus, myself. Still not "top tier", maybe a hair under Ruger, but...not at all "junk".

Did you notice the design similarities between that and a Charter Undercover of the same period? No side plates, action forks up into the frame, cylinder can be unlatched from the ejector rod (only choice with that thing), etc.? Looks like possibly the same designer?

RagingBull · August 3, 2011, 07:46 PM

Not familiar with the Charter Undercover so I'll have to take your word for it, but now you've got my interest piqued so now I need to research those too.

:-D

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dalegribble · August 3, 2011, 07:48 PM

i have the same gun in blue. it is a 4" barrel with duel 22 and 22 mag cylinders and checkered wood grips. it is a wonderful gun, accurate i love having both cylinders. you have a great gun at a good price i think you will like it. nice little trail gun.

RagingBull · August 3, 2011, 07:53 PM

Would like to find the LR cylinder for this one as well but for now, my Ruger Mk II serves me very well. What a great pistol that one is!!

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Mobuck · August 4, 2011, 06:01 AM

I had one of those with a 4" barrel. It wasn't very accurate and failed to fire about 1/3 of the time. Didn't keep it long.

NightSleeper · August 4, 2011, 09:44 AM

Quote:

HS made some very respectable guns circa 1950s-1960s-early '70s. I'd rather have one than a modern Taurus, myself. Still not "top tier", maybe a hair under Ruger, but...not at all "junk".

I disagree. I have a new Taurus 941 in .22 WMR and it shoots well. Nice little ultra light to carry in a pocket or holster when needed.

To the OP, that looks like a great little gun for the price. I hope the cylinder problem can be taken care of in short order.

Wuchak · August 4, 2011, 09:52 AM

Nice! I have a 3" 22 lr Sentinel that is a great plinker.

NAA has chrono'd just about every 22 lr and 22 mag load available through all of their different .22 revolvers. The have all the results published on their website.

tekarra · August 4, 2011, 07:42 PM

I had a .22lr Sentinal many years ago. It was a good, but not great plinker. However, for the price, it was hard to beat.

Bill DeShivs · August 4, 2011, 09:44 PM

These guns were actually made by Dan Wesson.

wogpotter · August 5, 2011, 08:53 AM

I think that's the other way round. Dan Wesson ( Wesson Arms) didn't have a manufacturing facility when they first started out & sub-contracted to High Standard for a while till they got up and running as a factory. The design was done by the same guy, Karl Lewis, as well, hence the unusual front cylinder latch.

Bill DeShivs · August 5, 2011, 12:43 PM

Could be. I remember some connection.

RagingBull · December 22, 2011, 11:01 AM

Been a while but with all that's been going on.....I'm just now getting around to taking this to my favorite shop for a checkup.

As far as the Dan Wesson connection, I understand it to be that it was rumored that High Standard manufactured Wesson guns but there is absolutely no evidence to support this. As far as I know, that rumor was started due to the similarities between HS and DW guns only.

RagingBull · December 22, 2011, 11:07 AM

Here's a link to where I found some history on these.

http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Sentinel/sentinel.html

Interesting that, prior to the "Mk" series of '74 and later, these were framed in aluminum.

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August 2, 2011, 10:17 PM	#1
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	High Standard Sentinel Mk IV .22WMR Just picked this up for a nice little pocket gun. DA trigger is heavy as expected. SA trigger, while still heavier than others, breaks cleanly with nearly indistinguishable creep. Cylinder is tight, rifling is great. All in all, a nice gun in good shape. Paid $250 for it. Probably about what it's worth, but didn't buy it to turn a profit. To me....it's a keeper. What y'all think?

August 2, 2011, 10:18 PM	#2
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	More pics

August 2, 2011, 10:29 PM	#3
TheNocturnus Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,097	Very cool, I like it. Looks like it has some rusting on it though, clean that beauty up and take her to the range. Can it also shoot .22 lr or just .22 mag? __________________ My EDC: Gun Wallet Brain (Use this one the most)

August 2, 2011, 10:53 PM	#5
TheNocturnus Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,097	So no .22lr then. I just got a 9 shot revolver recently myself. It is a H&R model 929 .22lr. Heres a pic: http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...4&d=1311998068 __________________ My EDC: Gun Wallet Brain (Use this one the most)

August 3, 2011, 07:26 PM	#12
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	HS made some very respectable guns circa 1950s-1960s-early '70s. I'd rather have one than a modern Taurus, myself. Still not "top tier", maybe a hair under Ruger, but...not at all "junk". Did you notice the design similarities between that and a Charter Undercover of the same period? No side plates, action forks up into the frame, cylinder can be unlatched from the ejector rod (only choice with that thing), etc.? Looks like possibly the same designer? __________________ Jim March

August 2, 2011, 10:41 PM	#4
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	.22 LR is a no-no. Case and (especially) rim diameter on LR is smaller than WMR rounds. However, I was pointed to some "short barrel" WMR ammo that is shorter and has less powder charge for that short barrel, but still WMR caliber. Just ordered a box of defense ammo for it. Will fire it then give her a full cleanup and take and post some more pics. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

August 3, 2011, 06:06 AM	#6
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	Not a bad looking piece there. Good shooter?? Looks like it should be pretty accurate with that barrel. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

August 3, 2011, 07:12 AM	#7
hornetguy Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: on the north side of DFW Posts: 970	I'll bet it's LOUD! I'll really be interested to see what kind of muzzle velocities you are getting from it. Will you chronograph it, or just shoot for groups? I had forgotten that High Standard made those.. I'll bet that would be a sweet little trail gun with a 4" barrel..

August 3, 2011, 10:24 AM	#8
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Hope you enjoy the HS 22 mag. Let us know how it shoots.

August 3, 2011, 11:27 AM	#9
BrittB Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 554	How are High Standard's pistols in general? Like them, hate them? This one looks pretty darn nice for what it is.

August 3, 2011, 06:37 PM	#10
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	Hornetguy......don't have a chrony, so I'll just be shooting for groups at about 21 feet. Going to use two or three different types of ammo, including some "short barrel" (lower power) rounds just ordered from Midway. With a tiny 2" barrel, it should be flashy and loud even with the short barrel ammo. Will let you all know how it goes. Hope to shoot some video. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

August 3, 2011, 07:06 PM	#11
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	So far....have shot one round in my back yard. (about all I dare try in my neighborhood) Using CCI Maxi Mag FMJ 40 grain rounds. Was not as loud as expected. Not sure yet of accuracy since it was just a shot in the dirt. Have found, however, that occasionally.....whether SA or DA......the cylinder locks and will not allow cycling. Did not do this the day I bought it and upon further testing, does not do this on a regular basis. Only occasionally. Could this be a timing problem starting to rear it's ugly head? Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

August 3, 2011, 07:46 PM	#13
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	Not familiar with the Charter Undercover so I'll have to take your word for it, but now you've got my interest piqued so now I need to research those too. :-D Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

August 3, 2011, 07:48 PM	#14
dalegribble Senior Member Join Date: August 4, 2007 Posts: 861	i have the same gun in blue. it is a 4" barrel with duel 22 and 22 mag cylinders and checkered wood grips. it is a wonderful gun, accurate i love having both cylinders. you have a great gun at a good price i think you will like it. nice little trail gun. __________________ Waltzes with woofs

August 3, 2011, 07:53 PM	#15
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	Would like to find the LR cylinder for this one as well but for now, my Ruger Mk II serves me very well. What a great pistol that one is!! Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

August 4, 2011, 06:01 AM	#16
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	I had one of those with a 4" barrel. It wasn't very accurate and failed to fire about 1/3 of the time. Didn't keep it long.

August 4, 2011, 09:52 AM	#18
Wuchak Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 1,093	Nice! I have a 3" 22 lr Sentinel that is a great plinker. NAA has chrono'd just about every 22 lr and 22 mag load available through all of their different .22 revolvers. The have all the results published on their website.

August 4, 2011, 07:42 PM	#19
tekarra Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2007 Posts: 1,164	I had a .22lr Sentinal many years ago. It was a good, but not great plinker. However, for the price, it was hard to beat.

August 4, 2011, 09:44 PM	#20
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	These guns were actually made by Dan Wesson. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

August 5, 2011, 08:53 AM	#21
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	I think that's the other way round. Dan Wesson ( Wesson Arms) didn't have a manufacturing facility when they first started out & sub-contracted to High Standard for a while till they got up and running as a factory. The design was done by the same guy, Karl Lewis, as well, hence the unusual front cylinder latch. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

August 5, 2011, 12:43 PM	#22
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Could be. I remember some connection. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

December 22, 2011, 11:01 AM	#23
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	Been a while but with all that's been going on.....I'm just now getting around to taking this to my favorite shop for a checkup. As far as the Dan Wesson connection, I understand it to be that it was rumored that High Standard manufactured Wesson guns but there is absolutely no evidence to support this. As far as I know, that rumor was started due to the similarities between HS and DW guns only.

December 22, 2011, 11:07 AM	#24
RagingBull Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Posts: 23	Here's a link to where I found some history on these. http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Sentinel/sentinel.html Interesting that, prior to the "Mk" series of '74 and later, these were framed in aluminum. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

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