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Old August 4, 2011, 06:48 PM   #26
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H&R Update

The new Nikon was not the answer. Results were the same: random holes at varying amounts away from center. I let a deer hunter try it and he had the same arbitrary results. I let a designated marksman from the Sheriff Dept try it. This guy has Army sniper training- same results. Assorted errors of random amounts in different directions from center.
After way too much time dinking around with this crud gun: two sets of rings, two scopes, five brands of premium ammo, I gave up.
Will send it back to the factory for eval. No matter what happens, I'm done with it. Time to move on to another.
I did buy the Savage model 220 bolt action to replace it and am looking forward to see how it works. Good quality Leupold bases and a Leupold Ultimate Slam 3-9x40 scope.
I'll set up multiple targets to compare where the holes are for 3 or 4 or 5 brands of sabot ammo. Identify the best grouping brand and zero it for that.
Might not even sleep tonight keeping me awake thinking about how well this shotgun does or does not lay those puppies in there.
I could never ID a particular brand with the H&R. It shot all over the paper no matter what I loaded.
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Old August 7, 2011, 01:55 AM   #27
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Recoil question

Fill the hole in the stock with lead, and add a limbsaver pad, I did it with a Ruger #3 in 45/70 ,it used to beat the heck out of me, now it just kind of bounces off my shoulder, It really tamed it down..................stegmaier
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Old August 7, 2011, 03:09 PM   #28
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Your gun will shoot fine once you find the slug it likes
Could someone elaborate on this?
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Old August 7, 2011, 03:25 PM   #29
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Just like handguns and rifles, each gun has a tendency to prefer one brand or type over others. Try as many as you can to see which one your gun likes best
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Old August 7, 2011, 03:37 PM   #30
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In this particular case something not quite yet known must be out of whack.
I don't know yet.
The gun failed to prefer anything I tried, Multiple shooters, multiple brands, random results.
I've already said this: loading those same brands into the new Savage model 220 fitted with a Leupold Ultimate Slam scope and it's simply not possible to miss. This baby will shoot anything I load. My particular present H&R break action single failed to shoot the same rounds. I never has had poor results with other older models of NEF / H&R singles. Totally unexpected.
This Savage 220 as I have it configured, and as I have it loaded, is one sweet shooter.
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Old August 21, 2011, 03:20 AM   #31
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The H&R break action 20ga single shot did go back to the factory. They mounted a scope and shot a 2 inch group using Remington Buck Hammers.
Does no good for me. The Buck Hammer is a fine full caliber one ounce lead slug. Zero the scope 2 inches high at 50 yards and you have a fine deer gun with point blank range to 100 yards.
That's my problem: I already have and am not looking for another 100 yard deer gun. I want to shoot the sub caliber sabots and I want more than 100 yards. The Savage model 220 I already know gives me that because I've been there and done that. The Savage bolt action 20 ga gives me every bit of what I never got from the H&R.
So I bought a shotgun expecting to work like I wanted but it was not true. Now I have a very nice and very good 100 yard deer gun to sell or give away. So far I have had no offers even with a really good discount. I might find somebody that has little money that wants a nice 100 yard deer gun and give it to them.
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