Proofmarks on gun/pistols etc

JNA_Klappe · January 24, 2000, 05:35 PM

I'm looking for al differnt proofmarks on weapons. I'm also intressted in serialnumbers and jear of making of Guns
Can You help me?

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Harley Nolden · January 24, 2000, 06:18 PM

JNA
The blue book of gun values is your best bet. I covers most proof marks and also serialization.

HJN

Steven Mace · January 25, 2000, 02:22 AM

Also a nice little piece of reference is the "Official Guide To Gunmarks - Third Edition", by Robert H. Balderson. Hope this helps!

Steve Mace

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After today, its all historical

fal308 · January 25, 2000, 09:59 AM

I also use The Standard Directory of Proof Marks; with WWII German Ordnance Codes by Gerhard Wirnsberger, translated by R.A. Steindler. I have an older edition ofThe Official Guide to Gunmarks; The Ultimate Gun Identification Guide by David Byron.
There are some cross-reference lists online and in print. Also some manufacturers list serial number ranges by years on their websites (I know Ruger does at least).
Gun Parts catalogs are also good reference books. You may also want to pick up The Standard Catalog of Firearms.
These are all good general publications. Quite a few companies have publications dedicated to that particular company and/or firearm (The Book of the Garand, FN FAL, etc). An extensive library is a must. I probably have around 100 books on firearms but I still don't have near enough to look up everything I want to.

James K · January 25, 2000, 02:06 PM

Hi, Fal308,

I guess I have close to 500 gun books and it seems I can never find what I want. Oh, well.

Jim

fal308 · January 26, 2000, 09:08 AM

Jim, I'm really envious. Do you have them catalouged at all (paper or computer)? Think about doing it every once in a while but then I think about how much time it would take.

Harley Nolden · January 26, 2000, 09:42 AM

Jim & fal308:
I think we three have a similar situation, Except, I like Jim have many books on firearms and most of my information has been cataloged alphabetically, transfered to a data base, and is currently being put on CD Rom. (New Machine)

As we share similarities, I think that we enhance each others' information and provide a great service. As we know that there are times that research material differs from one source to the other, or we may interpret the information differently,in the presentation of our material therefore, we may sometimes disagree, not because of our knowledge, or lack thereof but due to research material.

HJN

James K · January 26, 2000, 12:36 PM

Hi, guys,

Nothing cataloged. I wouldn't live long enough. On another forum someone asked about Mauser rifles made by Hopkins and Allen. I knew they made them, but couldn't recall the circumstances. Someone else responded that they were Model 1889 made for Belgium during WWI. Correct, and maybe if I cataloged and cross checked all my info...

Jim

JNA_Klappe · March 4, 2000, 04:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jim Keenan:
Hi, guys,

Nothing cataloged. I wouldn't live long enough. On another forum someone asked about Mauser rifles made by Hopkins and Allen. I knew they made them, but couldn't recall the circumstances. Someone else responded that they were Model 1889 made for Belgium during WWI. Correct, and maybe if I cataloged and cross checked all my info...

Jim[/quote]

Thank you all for your information. Can anyone send me pictures or printings bij email.
Thank a lot from a friend in the Netherlands

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January 24, 2000, 05:35 PM	#1
JNA_Klappe Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2000 Posts: 4	I'm looking for al differnt proofmarks on weapons. I'm also intressted in serialnumbers and jear of making of Guns Can You help me? ------------------

January 24, 2000, 06:18 PM	#2
Harley Nolden Staff In Memoriam Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Brunswick,GA USA Posts: 1,884	JNA The blue book of gun values is your best bet. I covers most proof marks and also serialization. HJN

January 25, 2000, 02:22 AM	#3
Steven Mace Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 1999 Location: Clifton, Colorado USA Posts: 724	Also a nice little piece of reference is the "Official Guide To Gunmarks - Third Edition", by Robert H. Balderson. Hope this helps! Steve Mace ------------------ After today, its all historical

January 25, 2000, 09:59 AM	#4
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	I also use The Standard Directory of Proof Marks; with WWII German Ordnance Codes by Gerhard Wirnsberger, translated by R.A. Steindler. I have an older edition ofThe Official Guide to Gunmarks; The Ultimate Gun Identification Guide by David Byron. There are some cross-reference lists online and in print. Also some manufacturers list serial number ranges by years on their websites (I know Ruger does at least). Gun Parts catalogs are also good reference books. You may also want to pick up The Standard Catalog of Firearms. These are all good general publications. Quite a few companies have publications dedicated to that particular company and/or firearm (The Book of the Garand, FN FAL, etc). An extensive library is a must. I probably have around 100 books on firearms but I still don't have near enough to look up everything I want to.

January 25, 2000, 02:06 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hi, Fal308, I guess I have close to 500 gun books and it seems I can never find what I want. Oh, well. Jim

January 26, 2000, 09:08 AM	#6
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	Jim, I'm really envious. Do you have them catalouged at all (paper or computer)? Think about doing it every once in a while but then I think about how much time it would take.

January 26, 2000, 09:42 AM	#7
Harley Nolden Staff In Memoriam Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Brunswick,GA USA Posts: 1,884	Jim & fal308: I think we three have a similar situation, Except, I like Jim have many books on firearms and most of my information has been cataloged alphabetically, transfered to a data base, and is currently being put on CD Rom. (New Machine) As we share similarities, I think that we enhance each others' information and provide a great service. As we know that there are times that research material differs from one source to the other, or we may interpret the information differently,in the presentation of our material therefore, we may sometimes disagree, not because of our knowledge, or lack thereof but due to research material. HJN

January 26, 2000, 12:36 PM	#8
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hi, guys, Nothing cataloged. I wouldn't live long enough. On another forum someone asked about Mauser rifles made by Hopkins and Allen. I knew they made them, but couldn't recall the circumstances. Someone else responded that they were Model 1889 made for Belgium during WWI. Correct, and maybe if I cataloged and cross checked all my info... Jim

March 4, 2000, 04:46 PM	#9
JNA_Klappe Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2000 Posts: 4	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jim Keenan: Hi, guys, Nothing cataloged. I wouldn't live long enough. On another forum someone asked about Mauser rifles made by Hopkins and Allen. I knew they made them, but couldn't recall the circumstances. Someone else responded that they were Model 1889 made for Belgium during WWI. Correct, and maybe if I cataloged and cross checked all my info... Jim[/quote] Thank you all for your information. Can anyone send me pictures or printings bij email. Thank a lot from a friend in the Netherlands ------------------