P95 safety question

MrEpps · April 28, 2011, 04:52 PM

I've finally registered, so hey to everyone

I carry a Ruger P95 DAO, no safety, had it since 95, but never keep a round in the chamber. Is it safe to carry with one in the chamber? If so, is there a chance of an accidental discharge?

Kreyzhorse · April 28, 2011, 07:11 PM

People carry Glocks and similar guns daily and so long as you use proper gun handling skills, the changes of a ND are very slim.

If you do carry, use a proper holster made for that gun that covers the trigger. I for one carry a Glock and a Ruger LCP and with a proper holster, I have no fear of having a ND.

k4swb · April 28, 2011, 07:40 PM

I really am not trying to be a smart arse but if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't.

jhgreasemonkey · April 28, 2011, 08:18 PM

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I've finally registered, so hey to everyone

I carry a Ruger P95 DAO, no safety, had it since 95, but never keep a round in the chamber. Is it safe to carry with one in the chamber? If so, is there a chance of an accidental discharge?

I deleted my recommendation because I misread and thought we were discussing the P95DC model. Welcome aboard and enjoy!

jhgreasemonkey · April 28, 2011, 08:21 PM

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I really am not trying to be a smart arse but if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't.

You're not helping anybody with responses like this. I'd like to suggest that you offer help next time please. This is someone's first post and he is being met with attitude. Not cool.

**Shane Tuttle** · April 28, 2011, 08:37 PM

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I really am not trying to be a smart arse but if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't.

If he has to ask, and does, then he might very well be a responsible person taking earnest effort to be educated.

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Originally Posted by jhgreasemonkey

More importantly with this pistol, the proper way to carry with a round chambered would be to chamber a round and then decock the pistol.

A P95 DAO isn't the same as a P95DC.

MrEpps, I agree with purchasing a quality holster that covers the trigger. It's basically the same practice and level of safety as carrying a DAO revolver. Nobody's had the level of concern carrying a DAO and I don't see any difference just because your firearm is a semiauto.

BTW, welcome to TFL...

jhgreasemonkey · April 28, 2011, 08:49 PM

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A P95 DAO isn't the same as a P95DC.

OOPS! Sorry! I misread that and thought we were talking about the decock only model.

Thanks for clearing that up.

**Shane Tuttle** · April 28, 2011, 09:02 PM

Pfffft! You oughta see how many times I misread posts....

publius · April 28, 2011, 09:10 PM

i carry my P94 with one in the pipe and the safety(decocker) in the fire position. I don't feel unsafe, but rather safer knowing i won't have to sweep that akward decocker up if a gremlin attacks.

**JohnKSa** · April 28, 2011, 09:11 PM

The P95 models all have a firing pin safety which makes them drop safe even with a round chambered.

As with any modern firearm, if you drop it or it falls, you should let fall unhindered rather than try to catch it. It's designed to be safe if it merely drops, but if you grab for it and accidentally get hold of the trigger then the results can be unpleasant as Mr. Plaxico Burress discovered.

chris in va · April 28, 2011, 09:11 PM

Handguns are designed to be carried with a round in the chamber. The only time I ever carry my Kahr without doing so is when paddling, as it sits in my drytop pocket on my chest.

k4swb · April 29, 2011, 09:19 AM

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You're not helping anybody with responses like this. I'd like to suggest that you offer help next time please. This is someone's first post and he is being met with attitude. Not cool.

Sorry you think I was unhelpful. Maybe I need to expand this.

If he has had the gun since 1995 and has never kept a round chambered then maybe he is still uncomfortable with the gun and probably shouldn't keep it loaded.

If someone isn't comfortable with something after 16 years, it may be too late.

sheepman · April 29, 2011, 09:45 AM

The Ruger P95 DAO is as safe to carry a round in the chamber as a Double Action Revolver. Either should be carried in a holster that covers the trigger.

I have carried a Glock 19 in my hip pocket (empty chamber) while working in the woods on my grand parents ranch, the striker was always in the unfired condition at the end of the day. A Glock has a much shorter and lighter trigger pull than your Ruger. Carry your Ruger in a good holster that covers the trigger with confidence.

carguychris · April 29, 2011, 10:01 AM

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If he has had the gun since 1995 and has never kept a round chambered then maybe he is still uncomfortable with the gun and probably shouldn't keep it loaded.

Cut the guy (I assume Mr = male...) some slack. There are a LOT of older handguns that are not drop-safe. Consequently, there are plenty of otherwise knowledgeable gun owners who don't understand that it's OK to carry most modern handguns with a round in the chamber.

Many of these people were taught to shoot by an older person who grew up with guns that weren't drop-safe, or was taught to keep the chamber empty while serving in the military, which AFAIK was general doctrine in all branches of the US military until relatively recently.

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The Ruger P95 DAO is as safe to carry a round in the chamber as a Double Action Revolver.

FWIW this statement is a bit misleading because not all DA revolvers are drop-safe.

For instance, S&W revolvers built prior to 1917 lack a hammer block and IMHO should never be carried with a live round under the hammer. Also, the 1st-generation S&W hammer block used from 1917-1944 wasn't a very good design, and IMHO these hammer blocks should be carefully checked for proper function before one of these guns is carried.

sheepman · April 29, 2011, 10:07 AM

"Cut the guy (I assume Mr = male...) some slack. There are a LOT of older handguns that are not drop-safe. Consequently, there are plenty of otherwise knowledgeable gun owners who don't understand that it's OK to carry most modern handguns with a round in the chamber."

I was one of these guys, and it took a long time to be comfortable with condition #1

nefprotector · April 29, 2011, 12:11 PM

Im a BIG Ruger fan and yes it is safe to carry a round in the tube. I mean it's like carrying a revolver really with a 10 lb trigger.

railroader · April 29, 2011, 07:26 PM

I have a decocker p95 that I keep loaded and decocked. So if I understand this correctly on the DAO model when you rack the slide, it loads the round, then the hammer follows the slide forward? If so carry it loaded. The long double action makes your gun safe enough. Just keep your finger off of the trigger untill you are ready to fire. It has a firing pin safety.

**JohnKSa** · April 29, 2011, 08:39 PM

That's correct. In a DAO model, the hammer is always forward unless the shooter is in the process of pulling the trigger.

MrEpps · April 30, 2011, 11:09 AM

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The P95 models all have a firing pin safety which makes them drop safe even with a round chambered.

this is the answer i needed. thanks everyone

April 28, 2011, 07:11 PM	#2
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	People carry Glocks and similar guns daily and so long as you use proper gun handling skills, the changes of a ND are very slim. If you do carry, use a proper holster made for that gun that covers the trigger. I for one carry a Glock and a Ruger LCP and with a proper holster, I have no fear of having a ND. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

April 28, 2011, 07:40 PM	#3
k4swb Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2009 Posts: 389	I really am not trying to be a smart arse but if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't. __________________ My posts are things I have tried or experienced. You may or may not wish to emulate them so read them with this in mind. Compromise means that both sides give something, but they never give, they just take. I'm The NRA!

April 28, 2011, 09:02 PM	#8
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 9,443	Pfffft! You oughta see how many times I misread posts.... __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

April 28, 2011, 09:10 PM	#9
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	i carry my P94 with one in the pipe and the safety(decocker) in the fire position. I don't feel unsafe, but rather safer knowing i won't have to sweep that akward decocker up if a gremlin attacks. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

April 28, 2011, 09:11 PM	#10
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	The P95 models all have a firing pin safety which makes them drop safe even with a round chambered. As with any modern firearm, if you drop it or it falls, you should let fall unhindered rather than try to catch it. It's designed to be safe if it merely drops, but if you grab for it and accidentally get hold of the trigger then the results can be unpleasant as Mr. Plaxico Burress discovered. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

April 28, 2011, 04:52 PM	#1
MrEpps Junior Member Join Date: April 28, 2011 Posts: 2	P95 safety question I've finally registered, so hey to everyone I carry a Ruger P95 DAO, no safety, had it since 95, but never keep a round in the chamber. Is it safe to carry with one in the chamber? If so, is there a chance of an accidental discharge?

April 28, 2011, 09:11 PM	#11
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Handguns are designed to be carried with a round in the chamber. The only time I ever carry my Kahr without doing so is when paddling, as it sits in my drytop pocket on my chest.

April 29, 2011, 09:45 AM	#13
sheepman Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2007 Location: Moses Lake WA Posts: 395	The Ruger P95 DAO is as safe to carry a round in the chamber as a Double Action Revolver. Either should be carried in a holster that covers the trigger. I have carried a Glock 19 in my hip pocket (empty chamber) while working in the woods on my grand parents ranch, the striker was always in the unfired condition at the end of the day. A Glock has a much shorter and lighter trigger pull than your Ruger. Carry your Ruger in a good holster that covers the trigger with confidence. __________________ The best gun is the one you have when you really need one Last edited by sheepman; April 29, 2011 at 10:04 AM.

April 29, 2011, 10:07 AM	#15
sheepman Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2007 Location: Moses Lake WA Posts: 395	"Cut the guy (I assume Mr = male...) some slack. There are a LOT of older handguns that are not drop-safe. Consequently, there are plenty of otherwise knowledgeable gun owners who don't understand that it's OK to carry most modern handguns with a round in the chamber." I was one of these guys, and it took a long time to be comfortable with condition #1 __________________ The best gun is the one you have when you really need one

April 29, 2011, 12:11 PM	#16
nefprotector Junior member Join Date: December 3, 2009 Location: SE Alabama Posts: 701	Im a BIG Ruger fan and yes it is safe to carry a round in the tube. I mean it's like carrying a revolver really with a 10 lb trigger.

April 29, 2011, 07:26 PM	#17
railroader Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2000 Location: Tucson Arizona Posts: 1,756	I have a decocker p95 that I keep loaded and decocked. So if I understand this correctly on the DAO model when you rack the slide, it loads the round, then the hammer follows the slide forward? If so carry it loaded. The long double action makes your gun safe enough. Just keep your finger off of the trigger untill you are ready to fire. It has a firing pin safety.

April 29, 2011, 08:39 PM	#18
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	That's correct. In a DAO model, the hammer is always forward unless the shooter is in the process of pulling the trigger. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

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