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Old February 20, 2011, 10:07 PM   #1
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The idiot scratch..

Just wanted to post to say thanks to everyone who has ever put up a post on these forums about how to remove one of these. I ended up using some 600 grit wet sandpaper with alot of oil and took it right out of my SA SS loaded 1911, than of course polished it back up. The results were impressive to say the least So with that said............thank you!!!
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Old February 20, 2011, 10:11 PM   #2
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Of course it only really works with a stainless steel gun. Any other finish and it's probably there for good.
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Old February 20, 2011, 11:01 PM   #3
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An “idiot scratch” is inevitable. No matter how hard one tries. My last idiot scratch was on a brand new, first time in the field Remington 700 AWR rifle. To this point I had never heated the barrel on an animal, only targets. The rifle with the scope cost me $3200.00

In Wyoming hunting Pronghorn. Leaned the rifle up against a truck. You guessed it, it fell over. IDIOT.
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Old February 20, 2011, 11:02 PM   #4
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yeah mine was the typical slide stop to the frame moron move.
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Old February 20, 2011, 11:18 PM   #5
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If you use it, it's going to look used, get over it. If you want it to look like new, put it in a shadow box and hang it on the wall in your den.
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Old February 21, 2011, 12:40 PM   #6
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Ah...the patina of a well used, well taken care of well made firearm. There's just something about the look of holster wear and normal use.
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Old February 21, 2011, 03:01 PM   #7
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It seems to happen that way, once a weapon has some scratches in it, you don't care as much if it gets another.
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Old February 21, 2011, 03:24 PM   #8
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Old February 21, 2011, 03:44 PM   #9
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I put my “idiot” scratch on my gold cup back in 1978.

At the time I was still practicing reassembling my 1911 blindfolded… At that point I did not even notice it.

Fast forward to 2010… one of my boys buys a Kimber and someone tells him about “idiot” scratches…

Well the shoe fits… but at one time I could put a 1911 together blindfolded.
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Old February 21, 2011, 04:04 PM   #10
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Simple Argument:

Is gun.

Gun is tool.

Tools get used.

Use make scratches.

Use make skill. Hand know gun.

Scratched tools make me "idiot"?

OK, I am idiot. Idiot skilled in use of my tools.

You have pretty tools your hand not know. Who is "idiot" now?
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Old February 21, 2011, 05:15 PM   #11
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There are no idiot scratches,...only idiots.
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Old February 21, 2011, 06:05 PM   #12
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I put one on my Springfield Trophy Match the after only my 2nd trip to the range. It was a "bad" one, it goes all the way to the trigger.

I don't really care though because when people shoot it the notice how perfectly it functions and accurate it is, Not the mark on the frame.
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Old February 21, 2011, 06:17 PM   #13
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It's like getting a parking lot dent in the new car.
The first one is the hardest.
Scratches just make it look experienced.
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Old February 21, 2011, 07:01 PM   #14
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Quote:
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Is gun.

Gun is tool.

Tools get used.

Use make scratches.

Use make skill. Hand know gun.

Scratched tools make me "idiot"?

OK, I am idiot. Idiot skilled in use of my tools.

You have pretty tools your hand not know. Who is "idiot" now?
exactly, i dont get bent when my hammer has a scatch, i dont get bent when one finds its way onto my gun.
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Old February 21, 2011, 07:10 PM   #15
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JimBob...

Well put...

I don't know if you have ever seen the comic "Pearls before Swine" but this is exactly what the "crocs" would say.

Funny!
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Old February 21, 2011, 07:17 PM   #16
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Funny!
Don't know that comic.....

When I thought that post up, I was imagining Mickey Rourke's character from Iron Man II saying it, in that thick broken Russian accent....
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Old February 21, 2011, 08:14 PM   #17
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My idiot scratch came from me dumping my unloaded 1911 out of my new shoulder holster while adjusting the straps. Luckly it landed on the extended mag well. Easily replaced.
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Old February 21, 2011, 08:39 PM   #18
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Got a very slight one on my Eddy Brown, as much as I tried to be careful. Now, Brown offers a take down tool that makes it almost impossible to put the idiot scratch on. I will try the removal OP suggest.

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Old February 21, 2011, 09:01 PM   #19
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Hey, I'm very picky about my guns!

I've found the "Idiot Scratch Prevention Tool" to work really well-think one would have to work to cause a scratch if they were using this correctly.

It's cheap and it works!

http://1911-ispt.com/index.shtml

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Old February 21, 2011, 09:12 PM   #20
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I hate that it is called a idiot scratch. When i had my SA millspec, this was the only phase of the re-assembly that i had issues with. Why must we denigrate people who accidentaly scratch there guns during a re assembly that is known to be hard.

So for those newbis out there, please give us a step by step walk through on how to reassemble the 1911 with out the idiot scratch. It annoys the heck out of me that people just expect people to know how to do it, and then call the rest idiots.
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Old February 21, 2011, 09:12 PM   #21
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My guns only have genius scratches!
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Old February 21, 2011, 09:13 PM   #22
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I use an old slice of Credit Card to insert between the slide stop and slide stop plunger to push the plunger in first... and push the slide stop in... it takes time to get a feel for it... but it prevents the scratches...

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Old February 21, 2011, 09:46 PM   #23
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Yes, those pesky little plungers can certainly be tricky to deal with sometimes. I put a very light scratch on my Colt 1991 the second time I took it down. I wasn't paying close enough attention that day I guess. A little touch up with a Scotch-Brite pad and it looks like new again. Gotta love stainless.
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Old February 21, 2011, 10:52 PM   #24
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Rigby06 hit the nail. First scratch will sometimes dissapoint you, but it may give your firearm some character lol.

My first idiot scratch happened when a friend wanted to see my new FNX-9. I locked the slide open, took out the empty mag and handed it to him. He's not a big firearm guy and asked how to "make the gun look normal". I told him to either pull the slide back and release, or to push down on the slide lock. He chose the latter... Right after doing so he immediately flinched his hand and let go of the pistol. I had a mat down, but butterfingers dropped it right onto concrete floor of my garage. A nice scratch about a 1/4" long now decorates the left front cocking serrations of my pistol.

Next time if any firearm illiterate friends want to see your pistol...let em see it with their eyes, or hand it to them in one of those children's bounce houses.

2 weeks later, on his own accord, he bought me a box of ammunition. It was a a box of russian made 9x18mm makarov rounds lol.
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Old February 22, 2011, 12:13 AM   #25
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Ah so that's what you call it. Mine goes all the way to the trigger too, and on my XSE part of the trip is matte finish.....
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