Selling my gun. Is this legal?

Paul K · January 13, 2011, 10:22 PM

Brothers and Sisters of the Revolution,

I think what I am doing is legal, but I just want to double check with some of you. I am selling my Barrett M82 .50 cal. I live in MI, and this guy that made me the offer lives in Illinois (RIGHT away when he said that a red flag went up in my head). He lives in the south of Illinois- west of Springfield, so no Chicago. Really nice guy.

So, instead of shipping this gun, I figure why not drive it down? A very, very, good friend of mine lives a few hours away- I can make a trip out of it. Plus, there is a lot of money at stake here.

The plan is to drive it down and meet at the FFL dealer to do the transfer. Here is the question- Is it OK to drive in the state of Illinois with a 50 caliber semi-automatic sniper rifle in the back of the car or is this a bad idea? I know Illinois has terrible gun laws and I don’t want to get caught up in that jive turkey.

DiscoRacing · January 13, 2011, 10:25 PM

You can transport your gun to another state...yes... but.. I wouldnt tell them if you get stopped that your taking it to someone to sell it... Just tell them its my gun...and im driving..Then you can transfer it with someone who holds a valid FFL yes.

natman · January 14, 2011, 04:18 AM

What you describe isn't against FEDERAL law. I have no idea what Illinois law regarding 50 cal rifles might be, but I suggest you call the IL FFL and see if he is willing to do the transfer before you travel.

1911rocks · January 14, 2011, 07:13 AM

Illinois has some of the country's most restrictive firearms regulations in the eastern US. I would definitely recommend avoiding Cook County at all costs. Indiana is gun friendly

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This link addresses the issue of non-residents transporting guns. (scroll down)
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

I can't find any data on Caliber restrictions. A call to the Illinois State Police would answer that.

boredom · January 14, 2011, 09:31 AM

i cant see why it would be illegal, but as stated, if you get pulled over for any reason, i wouldnt mention going to sell it. i would guess your friend has some land, and you are going to enjoy it.

goodspeed(TPF) · January 14, 2011, 01:28 PM

It's your rifle. Transport is perfectly legal.

P.S. How much?

brickeyee · January 14, 2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Illinois has some of the country's most restrictive firearms regulations in the eastern US.

Illinois is pretty far from being in the "eastern US."

It is usually grouped in the mid-west.

**44 AMP** · January 14, 2011, 09:53 PM

Doesn't IL require a FOID? And you aren't a resident. Fed law protects you transporting thru the state, providing your guns are legal where you are going, and you don't make un-necessary stops. IL law may not.

This is tricksy, because I am not familiar with IL laws. You need to talk to someone who is. The FFL doing the transfer should be able to tell you what you can, and cannot do, under IL law.

Good Luck.

langenc · January 14, 2011, 11:27 PM

Another, better option, in my opinion, would be to let the buyer come to your FFL and do the transfer.

Paul K · January 15, 2011, 10:07 AM

From what it looks like, I can possess this rifle without an FOID because I am not a resident of IL. I may even just go though Indiana just to be safe...

Technosavant · January 15, 2011, 10:10 AM

Transport is legal. Make sure the firearm is unloaded, cased, and placed in a part of the vehicle where you can't reach it while driving.

I've driven a gun to a FFL in IL for transfer before. Perfectly legal. And to my knowledge, .50 cal is legal in IL.

cecILL · January 15, 2011, 10:24 AM

Techno is correct. I will quote: "Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms: 1. Unloaded, and 2. Enclosed in a case, and 3. Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state."

Patriot86 · January 15, 2011, 06:39 PM

I would research this but for some reason it sticks out in my mind that maybe .50 cal weapons are banned in Illinois. I am going to do some digging myself but you may wish to check into it yourself. I am be thinking of a Chicago or cook county only law.

Xfire68 · January 15, 2011, 07:22 PM

As it is right now you can own a .50 cal but, they are still trying to ban it and owning ammo for one as well. It's been going on for years so until they pass it your good to go!

dlb435 · January 16, 2011, 09:52 AM

You can legally ship (UPS) all of the gun to the FFL dealer in Illinois. Let UPS deal with it. You don't even need to take the trip. I'd get insurance in case of loss.

January 13, 2011, 10:22 PM	#1
Paul K Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 674	Selling my gun. Is this legal? Brothers and Sisters of the Revolution, I think what I am doing is legal, but I just want to double check with some of you. I am selling my Barrett M82 .50 cal. I live in MI, and this guy that made me the offer lives in Illinois (RIGHT away when he said that a red flag went up in my head). He lives in the south of Illinois- west of Springfield, so no Chicago. Really nice guy. So, instead of shipping this gun, I figure why not drive it down? A very, very, good friend of mine lives a few hours away- I can make a trip out of it. Plus, there is a lot of money at stake here. The plan is to drive it down and meet at the FFL dealer to do the transfer. Here is the question- Is it OK to drive in the state of Illinois with a 50 caliber semi-automatic sniper rifle in the back of the car or is this a bad idea? I know Illinois has terrible gun laws and I don’t want to get caught up in that jive turkey.

January 13, 2011, 10:25 PM	#2
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	You can transport your gun to another state...yes... but.. I wouldnt tell them if you get stopped that your taking it to someone to sell it... Just tell them its my gun...and im driving..Then you can transfer it with someone who holds a valid FFL yes. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

January 14, 2011, 07:13 AM	#4
1911rocks Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2006 Posts: 424	Natman's got a great point. Illinois has some of the country's most restrictive firearms regulations in the eastern US. I would definitely recommend avoiding Cook County at all costs. Indiana is gun friendly . This link addresses the issue of non-residents transporting guns. (scroll down) http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm I can't find any data on Caliber restrictions. A call to the Illinois State Police would answer that.

January 14, 2011, 01:28 PM	#6
goodspeed(TPF) Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: WI Posts: 1,162	It's your rifle. Transport is perfectly legal. P.S. How much? __________________ It's a trick. Get an axe. http://www.thepiratefleet.com/index.shtml

January 14, 2011, 09:53 PM	#8
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,806	Doesn't IL require a FOID? And you aren't a resident. Fed law protects you transporting thru the state, providing your guns are legal where you are going, and you don't make un-necessary stops. IL law may not. This is tricksy, because I am not familiar with IL laws. You need to talk to someone who is. The FFL doing the transfer should be able to tell you what you can, and cannot do, under IL law. Good Luck. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

January 14, 2011, 04:18 AM	#3
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2008 Posts: 2,605	What you describe isn't against FEDERAL law. I have no idea what Illinois law regarding 50 cal rifles might be, but I suggest you call the IL FFL and see if he is willing to do the transfer before you travel.

January 14, 2011, 09:31 AM	#5
boredom Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 135	i cant see why it would be illegal, but as stated, if you get pulled over for any reason, i wouldnt mention going to sell it. i would guess your friend has some land, and you are going to enjoy it.

January 14, 2011, 11:27 PM	#9
langenc Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2007 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 1,551	Another, better option, in my opinion, would be to let the buyer come to your FFL and do the transfer.

January 15, 2011, 10:07 AM	#10
Paul K Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 674	From what it looks like, I can possess this rifle without an FOID because I am not a resident of IL. I may even just go though Indiana just to be safe...

January 15, 2011, 10:10 AM	#11
Technosavant Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 4,040	Transport is legal. Make sure the firearm is unloaded, cased, and placed in a part of the vehicle where you can't reach it while driving. I've driven a gun to a FFL in IL for transfer before. Perfectly legal. And to my knowledge, .50 cal is legal in IL.

January 15, 2011, 10:24 AM	#12
cecILL Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: central IL Posts: 769	Techno is correct. I will quote: "Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms: 1. Unloaded, and 2. Enclosed in a case, and 3. Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state."

January 15, 2011, 06:39 PM	#13
Patriot86 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2010 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,293	I would research this but for some reason it sticks out in my mind that maybe .50 cal weapons are banned in Illinois. I am going to do some digging myself but you may wish to check into it yourself. I am be thinking of a Chicago or cook county only law.

January 15, 2011, 07:22 PM	#14
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: March 31, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,562	As it is right now you can own a .50 cal but, they are still trying to ban it and owning ammo for one as well. It's been going on for years so until they pass it your good to go! __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

January 16, 2011, 09:52 AM	#15
dlb435 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2009 Posts: 654	You can legally ship (UPS) all of the gun to the FFL dealer in Illinois. Let UPS deal with it. You don't even need to take the trip. I'd get insurance in case of loss.

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