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Old August 28, 2017, 05:03 PM   #1
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Precision Delta bullets

Has anyone tried the Precision Delta Bullet Company "Match Lube" bullets? Specifically the .45 cal 185 grain HPLSWC. I have been told they are very accurate in a M1911.

What has me concerned is the lube. They appear to have little to no lube on them. Or am I just not used to this type of bullet?
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Old August 28, 2017, 06:32 PM   #2
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Swaged bullets generally have a wax emulsion lube. Lube works very well, particularly for .45 Auto velocities. Heck, I use Hornady 140gn swaged Cowboy bullets for HOT .38 super loads without leading.
Order a few and try them or contact the Bullseye-L group and ask them for opinion.
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Old August 30, 2017, 04:33 PM   #3
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Their FAQ says they use a proprietary match lube. The white residue suggests it might be something like Lee case lube diluted, sprayed on and allowed to dry. It may work fine. If you don't like it, you can always add some Lee Liquid Alox lube afterward.

I don't find any swaged bullets shoot up to harder cast bullets of good quality unless the pressures are quite low. The fault is not in the bullets but in getting the gun to shoot them without distorting them, yet still pressurize them hard enough to upset to seal the bore well. You can minimize distortion by seating them out to headspace on the bullet's contact with the lands rather than the case mouth. I found this shrank groups about 40% and reduced leading significantly. You just want to check that your gun still feeds them OK seated out that far (third image from left, below).

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Old August 31, 2017, 08:10 PM   #4
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They are accurate but caused some leading in all of the 1911's I shot them in.

I switched to the Zero 185 swchp and just as accurate but no leading, in not sure if it is the sizing or the lube they use so your mileage may very.
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Old September 1, 2017, 04:55 PM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I loaded 25 of these Precision Delta 185 grain HPLSWC over 3.6 grains of Titegroup. Installed a 12# recoil spring, and new Hogue grips with finger grooves. Trying to find an accurate low recoil load for Bullseye Pistol. Might even try 3.4 grains of powder.

Previously I have used 200 grain LSWC over 3.9 grains of Titegroup and a 14# recoil spring. Not bad at all on recoil, but I'm anticipating, and occasionally throwing shots low, real low.

Tomorrow morning at the range will be the test.
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Old September 2, 2017, 12:22 PM   #6
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Tried this new load a few hours ago. Accurate, feeds and functions flawlessly. Best part, I was able to keep all the shots on a 25 yard B8C repair center at timed fire cadence, which may not be much for some people, but it's an improvement for me.

I think my major improvement comes from the mental part of the game. I am working on convincing myself that there is no reason to flinch. Sure, there is an explosion going off in my hand, less than 3 feet away from my face, but nothing bad is going to happen. It's just noise. It's not going to hurt me. Don't flinch, don't jerk, don't anticipate the recoil. Just go along for the ride. Put the holes in the black you dummy, put the holes in the black.
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