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Old December 14, 2010, 11:31 PM   #1
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Don't Own A Gun? That'll Be $500, Please! (VT)

Recently State Rep. Fred Maslack from Vermont has come forward with a bill and although it may not make it into law; it's great fodder for thought. It’s also amusing as h*** when one considers the hue and cry the gun control folks will raise if/when it’s seriously considered.

Seems Maslack has done in-depth studies of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the State of Vermont’s Constitution and his conclusions have a lot of folks talking -- not only in Vermont but lots of other places. Maslack is obviously serious about his study as he recently proposed a bill in Vermont that would require "non-gun-owners" to register and pay a $500 fee to the State of Vermont for NOT owning a gun!

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Old December 14, 2010, 11:47 PM   #2
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interesting, doubt it'll go anywhere, but I'll be keeping my eyes on this to see what develops
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Old December 15, 2010, 01:19 AM   #3
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How is this different than requiring people to buy insurance (besides the cost)?

I'd say someone is probably being hypocritical...
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Old December 15, 2010, 01:55 AM   #4
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I know absolutely nothing about Vermont constitution, I don't even pretend to on TV... BUT, if there's something in the original Vermont constitution about all able-bodies being capable of defending their home, family, state, etc if called upon to do so---as in original post-colonial/militia doctrine, then it would technically qualify to some degree. Just food for thought...
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Old December 15, 2010, 06:31 AM   #5
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erm.... in the higly civilised and pacific Switzerland, until a few years ago if a citizen didn't want to keep at home his/her service weapon after the compulsory military service had to pay a fee...

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Old December 15, 2010, 06:54 AM   #6
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How is this different than requiring people to buy insurance (besides the cost)?
Because according to the article, it falls in line with the Vermont Constitution.
Vermont’s Constitution gets explicit: They give their citizens the right to carry concealed guns – without a permit – and describe that situation as "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State." It goes on – and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Therefore – Maslack says Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise" where force is necessary to protect the State of Vermont.
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Old December 15, 2010, 07:24 AM   #7
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I lived in ATL, Georgia when Kennesaw decided every household must have a gun. Don't remember a fine for non-compliance, I guess because they didn't want to do any registration to insure compliance.
Which would be my question you going to know....or do all Vermont firearms owners register with the state?
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Old December 15, 2010, 09:58 AM   #8
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The Kennesaw Ordinance was a “tongue-in cheek” gesture in response to the Oak Park, Illinois, ordinance forbidding guns.

The Fred Maslack bill news is about ten years old.
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:03 AM   #9
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I don't have to pay anyone for being an atheist,
and I don't have to pay anyone if (for some hypothetical reason) I didn't want to own a firearm.

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That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State - and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.
Not sure how you get mandated firearm ownership from that...
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:05 AM   #10
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those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent.
Reasoning bhind that, I would guess, is that those who will not, for religious or other reasons, participate in the "common defense", at least help shoulder the load financially.
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