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View Poll Results: Do you like your XS Big Dot Sights for a DEFENSIVE roll on a carry pistol?
I hated them and promptly swapped them for something else. 5 15.15%
I was unimpressed by them but kept them on because they were expensive. 3 9.09%
I like them OK but they are hard to get used to. 15 45.45%
I love them and will never use anything else. 10 30.30%
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Old November 16, 2010, 09:28 AM   #1
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XS Big Dot Sights

Before I order a set of 125.00 night sights that I have never personally seen, I'd like to get feel for how you guys like them. Please don't vote based on second or third hand scuttlebutt. This is for folks that have had them.
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Old November 16, 2010, 09:36 AM   #2
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I love them on my LCR but I'm far from switching ALL my guns to them
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Old November 16, 2010, 09:38 AM   #3
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I had to pick "I love them and wouldnt use anything else" because its the only option that wasnt a negative option. If they are available for a defensive gun that I'm using they are my first pick. They are much more accurate than non users give them credit for and there was no learning curve for me they were natural. Sig 226 DAK 9mm.
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Old November 16, 2010, 09:38 AM   #4
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I have them on G26 and they work very well. They take a little practice but once you get the hang of them they are fast and easy to see. At night the big dot really glows and is easy to pick up.

They work for me and I like them!
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Old November 16, 2010, 10:26 AM   #5
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Have them on my Hi-Power.
Took a while to get used to the sight picture.

If you're going to go back and forth between guns it's a consideration.

If I'm shooting my 1911 and then pick up the hi power I have to think "different sights"

For combat shooting though they're great. The front sight is one BIG meatball.

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Old November 16, 2010, 11:14 AM   #6
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I took a set off of my HK tactical; not because I didn't like them, but because they didn't clear the suppressor I bought. I did like them for fast up close shooting. They are good sights for old eyes too. Now they are just sitting in my box of misfit toys.
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Old November 16, 2010, 12:52 PM   #7
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I've had them on a couple of my Glocks (including my main CCW piece) for a few years. Been through classes (both range and FOF) with them, etc. I like them and I think that many shooters, particularly those with poor vision, could benefit from them.

That said, I'm looking at trying something new, not because I feel handicapped by the Big Dots, but just to re-evaluate my choices since it's been a few years since I've consistently shot with anything else.
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Old November 16, 2010, 01:03 PM   #8
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On this gun, and with my poor up close vision, that front sight made a world of difference. Now, keep in mind, for me I needed a larger and more visible front sight and was not concerned about shooting 25-30 yards down range or rapid firing. So, I feel at close to mid range distances, the XS Big Dot works well.

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Old November 16, 2010, 01:11 PM   #9
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I had a S&W revolver with them on it. They were good for up close fast shooting I didn't like them for anything else (precision shots past 15yrds). I would put them on my daily CCW gun but that's about it.
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Old November 16, 2010, 01:23 PM   #10
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Mine came with a Charles Daly clone of a High Power.
Didn't like them at all. Seemed very imprecise, not much better than point-shooting. Took the gun to a local 'smith and had the dovetails recut to fit a Novak rear with a fiber optic front. My groups improved right away.
My impression was the "big dot" was not much better than the old groved top strap as used on Colt SAA and J model S&W.
Waste of money in my opinion.
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Old November 16, 2010, 07:17 PM   #11
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I placed the standard Big Dot on my .357 LCR recently, have not used it but it certainly looks like a keeper.

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Old November 17, 2010, 02:05 AM   #12
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I have them on a Sig P245. Came with the gun - probably wouldn't have made that choice personally - especially at their price point. Seem to give you a rough,quick, snap sight picture. Might be good in a purely defensive role, though my Sig seems to shoot significantly low with them. I'll probably trade them out for some 3-dot regular night sights, maybe next year. See how the POI/POA situation changes then.
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Old November 17, 2010, 05:31 AM   #13
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Just took a low/no light fighting pistol course using the Big Dot sights on my M&P 9c. For me, they work great for a defensive pistol, and I had no problems hitting my targets with them at defensive ranges. For any kind of target or shots at targets 25yds or longer, I prefer the stock sights on my other M&P pistols.
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Old November 17, 2010, 06:29 AM   #14
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Just like Jimbo Indy...kinda

Mine were on a CD Hi-Power clone. I swapped mine for the Tritium variety. Charles Daly got cheap and installed a Non-Tritium Std. Dot sight set. I swapped mine to the Tritiums (~$125.00) Then shot and shot the thing. It was fine for point shooting. That could have been attributed to the HP ergonomics. However, never did really feel like it was an improvement. I had other guns with 3 dot Tritiums so there was the multiplicity issue. Eventually got rid of the CD HP. On a snubby they might be OK. But I always thought snubbies were suppose to leave powder burns when you actually used them. LOL
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Old November 17, 2010, 06:45 AM   #15
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I put them on a XSE Colt Lightweight Commander and I like them.

My 2nd shot times were slightly but consistently quicker with the big dots, when seeing how quickly I could keep both hits on a 6'' circle at 18 feet. (I averaged about 15 pairs). The Big Dots knocked the time down from .29 to .21 on average, or a reduction of .08 ( I said slightly )

I have Meprolights on other pistols and the difference in look doesn't interfere with my shooting.
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Old November 17, 2010, 12:28 PM   #16
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I've had them on two of my CCW weapons for several years. IME, they're absolutely the fastest system to index on target and get "A Zone" hits with at ranges out to 20 yds or so that I've ever used. IME, also capable of a good deal more precision than some would have you think at longer ranges once you've become accustomed to using them properly. Putting an eight-rd. mag-full of .45 ACP into the center-chest zone of a regulation IDP target at 50 yds can be done very consistently and quickly with some diligent practice.

If it's the possibility of things getting "Up-close-and-personal" that concerns you most, it'd be hard to find anything easier to learn to put your hits where they need to go - fast! with, IMHO.
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Old November 17, 2010, 07:35 PM   #17
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I have a G21sf that I put the XS nite sights on and love them. I have no trouble getting good groups at 25 yrds. For quick target work they are perfect to me.
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Old November 19, 2010, 04:55 PM   #18
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Thanks for all the useful info and opinions. I think I will get a set of these sights for my carry XD. If I don't like them, there is always E-bay.
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Old November 19, 2010, 10:24 PM   #19
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Super Fast Sights!

I have the Big Dot Night Sights on my Glock 21! They are excellent combat sights. Super fast target acquisition.
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Old November 20, 2010, 12:35 AM   #20
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XS big dot sights

I have a set of XS big dot sights on my M870 shotgun and I like them very much.

I just (two hours ago) got a used Kahr K9 with XS big dot sights. I'm going to take to the range early next week and put 250 rounds through it and I'll report back. I have limited experience with that sight system on handguns.
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Old November 20, 2010, 11:36 AM   #21
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XS Big Dots

I have them on my G26 and G19 and they work very well for an old man with poor vision. Probably not as accurate for purely target shooting but great combat sights for quick target acquisition.
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Old November 20, 2010, 10:15 PM   #22
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I have one on a j-frame. I like it quite a bit, found it relatively easy to adjust to, but have not invested (and am unlikely to do so) in placing them on my other pistols.
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Old November 20, 2010, 11:14 PM   #23
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I have XS Big Dots on a G19 and a 640-1. Great for quick target acquisiton at close range. The G19 is the only one that, at present, also has an XS rear.

I also have a standard XS standard for my LCR which is zeroed nicely in the rear notch. The Big dot would work fine, also, but precision is lost beyond real close range.

I've replaced a number of sights with the XS STANDARD sight, which I've come to prefer. Still big enough to pick up quickly and small enough for some fair precision.

I do not, however, prefer the XS rear sight. I prefer the standard square notch. Since the front sight on most pistols is very high, it requires a higher rear sight to compensate.

My P228 SIG zeros perfectly with the XS standard dot and #10 rear. I've ordered two more rear sights from Sigarms and two XS standard sights so I'll be converting a couple more SIGS. They're fast on target.

The change is prompted by my eyesight which isn't, in my 6th decade, as good as it used to be. If it was, I'd probably stick with standard sights, but would have no problem with XS sights, either.

My Colt Commander zeros well with the XS standard with no replacement of the Novak rear necessary. It tends to work that way on some 1911's--but not others.

My Springfield Champ. zeros with the center tritium even with the white dots of the rear sight, which leaves about half the dot above the notch. Shooting with part of the dot out of the notch is an easy learning curve.

NOTE: I've been guilty of referring to all XS sights as BIG DOTS. It's important to remember that there're BIG DOT and STANDARD. I believe the standard will work quite well for most of us.

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Old November 21, 2010, 12:25 AM   #24
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XS sights

Tonight I took my new K9 with the XS big dot sights to the range and ran 200 rnds through it.

I had to remember to make sure that all of that big pumpkin sized dot was resting on the shallow "V" of the rear sight, or my shots would print low.

I also found that my group opened up in a uniform way once I got back to 50 feet. I suspect that's because I'm not used to the sights, and it's harder to be precise in comparison with conventional notch & post type sights.

I did most of my shooting at 50 feet on an IPSC buff colored target.

I'll have to do more shooting before I decide -- I think the XS big dot sights are good for going fast in close. It'll take some work before I feel particularly confident with them at distance.
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Old December 5, 2010, 12:35 PM   #25
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Thanks for all the useful info and opinions. I think I will get a set of these sights for my carry XD. If I don't like them, there is always E-bay]
Glad you posted this thread I've been thinking about getting a set also. Let us know your opinion after you try them out.
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