Help over firearm possession - Page 2

Kreyzhorse · June 3, 2010, 08:36 PM

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It sounds like your co-worker wants to back out of the deal after it has already been done and is just making up stories to justify it.

Yep. He wants it back.

1-DAB · June 3, 2010, 08:55 PM

read most of the replies, so if i'm repeating one, sorry.

he wants his gun back. sell it to him for 2x what you paid for it. demand cash. see how serious he is.

if he forks over the $$, avoid him going forward and go buy another gun with your new found $$.

if he resists, tell him to buzz off.

Chrz · June 4, 2010, 01:34 AM

I talked to him today. He pulled the "Do it as a favor to me" routine. I told him no. I don't want my money back, I want to keep the pistol.

Then he gave a big sigh and asked me to think about it. Then I said, while playing along with his game of the dealer-said-this the-dealer-said-that, "The dealer doesn't deserve to be rewarded with possession of this pistol for all the bull (EXPLICIT) that he's been feeding you and I. So again, my answer is 'No'.".

I know he's going to try again in the next day or two.

I'm keeping it, that's final.

blume357 · June 4, 2010, 06:53 AM

the thing that concerns me is the co-workers persistence.... something for sure is going on.... are you absolutely sure he was the legal owner of the gun? I wonder if possibly he 'borrowed' it or something and now needs to return it?

Don P · June 4, 2010, 07:32 AM

If he has a copy of the sales agreement as you should and have stated you have one then if anything were to happen down the road all he does is show the bill of sale to the LE questioning him about the gun and then they come to you.

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This is a co worker, right? You ought to consider contacting your company management (and HR dept., if you have one) and explaining the situation. And do it before he does...

Explain that you made a good faith, legal private transaction, and now the guy is harassing you about it, at work. No matter how this plays out (and based on your info, it would seem you are in the right), your coworker bothering you about it could constitute a "hostile work environment".

It is not impossible either he, or you could wind up losing your job, if this incident gets blown out of proportion. Consider getting your side on the record with your employer, first. That way, should he try to use your employment as a lever to force the return of the Ruger (unlikely, but not impossible), having your side on file could make the difference.

Good Luck.

Being a former manager this is some of the best advise in the above quote. I have seen people lose their jobs over private issues not even involving deadly weapons.

Chrz · June 4, 2010, 09:36 AM

We both have copies of the sales agreement, and he was the legal owner of the firearm. When i bought it from him, he showed me his receipt from where he bought it.

It had the location of the purchase, serial number, price he paid, his card number, and his name on it.

And since several people are saying it's a good idea to talk to management, I probably will

Glenn E. Meyer · June 4, 2010, 09:44 AM

Yeah, tell management and call the BATFE. You are covered, you owe him nothing.

Chrz · June 4, 2010, 01:43 PM

The situation has been resolved, management was informed and aware of what was going on and will be notified should it become a problem again. I have a friend who works for the Dallas Field Office of the BATFE, and they were notified as soon as the situation occurred, and have been informed of the resolution.

I thank everyone for their opinions, thoughts, and solutions.

And yes, I'm keeping it.

Sefner · June 4, 2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrz

The situation has been resolved, management was informed and aware of what was going on and will be notified should it become a problem again. I have a friend who works for the Dallas Field Office of the BATFE, and they were notified as soon as the situation occurred, and have been informed of the resolution.

I thank everyone for their opinions, thoughts, and solutions.

And yes, I'm keeping it.

/applause! Good to hear, sir.

June 4, 2010, 06:53 AM	#29
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	I scanned through all this and agree you are handling it right... the thing that concerns me is the co-workers persistence.... something for sure is going on.... are you absolutely sure he was the legal owner of the gun? I wonder if possibly he 'borrowed' it or something and now needs to return it?

June 4, 2010, 09:44 AM	#32
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Yeah, tell management and call the BATFE. You are covered, you owe him nothing. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

June 3, 2010, 08:55 PM	#27
1-DAB Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 474	read most of the replies, so if i'm repeating one, sorry. he wants his gun back. sell it to him for 2x what you paid for it. demand cash. see how serious he is. if he forks over the $$, avoid him going forward and go buy another gun with your new found $$. if he resists, tell him to buzz off.

June 4, 2010, 01:34 AM	#28
Chrz Member Join Date: April 16, 2010 Posts: 25	I talked to him today. He pulled the "Do it as a favor to me" routine. I told him no. I don't want my money back, I want to keep the pistol. Then he gave a big sigh and asked me to think about it. Then I said, while playing along with his game of the dealer-said-this the-dealer-said-that, "The dealer doesn't deserve to be rewarded with possession of this pistol for all the bull (EXPLICIT) that he's been feeding you and I. So again, my answer is 'No'.". I know he's going to try again in the next day or two. I'm keeping it, that's final.

June 4, 2010, 09:36 AM	#31
Chrz Member Join Date: April 16, 2010 Posts: 25	We both have copies of the sales agreement, and he was the legal owner of the firearm. When i bought it from him, he showed me his receipt from where he bought it. It had the location of the purchase, serial number, price he paid, his card number, and his name on it. And since several people are saying it's a good idea to talk to management, I probably will

June 4, 2010, 01:43 PM	#33
Chrz Member Join Date: April 16, 2010 Posts: 25	The situation has been resolved, management was informed and aware of what was going on and will be notified should it become a problem again. I have a friend who works for the Dallas Field Office of the BATFE, and they were notified as soon as the situation occurred, and have been informed of the resolution. I thank everyone for their opinions, thoughts, and solutions. And yes, I'm keeping it.