Kicks vs Patternmaster

bangbang777 · January 4, 2010, 07:43 PM

Who is the best for duck hunting? I know the kicks is the only one you can use Black Cloud with, but I have heard great things about the Patternmaster. Any thoughts?

oneounceload · January 4, 2010, 10:04 PM

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I know the kicks is the only one you can use Black Cloud with

and why is that?

Dave McC · January 5, 2010, 06:53 AM

It's hard to make a blanket statement that A is better than B when it comes to shotguns.

The turkey load that patterns best in one barrel and choke may be all over the paper when you test it in another.

With Hevishot 2s, I can swap between LM and Full and change the pattern only about 2" at 40 yards in one barrel.

Same gun, different barrel, it's more like 6".

Over decoys, about all you need is Mod anyway. If pass shooting, I'd try different loads and use the one giving the best 50 yard patterns.

DA.Worboys · January 26, 2010, 10:47 PM

Black cloud uses a flight controled wad which mean the wad is designed to still holding the BB's out side the barrel. unlike KICKS a lot of other choke tubes will catch the wad to seperate it from the BB's. i myself shoot a benelli nova and use KICK's highflyer full and absolutly crushes the ducks and geese and use KICKS gobblin thunder .665 and i can send patterns out to 40 yards easy

chaser_2332 · January 27, 2010, 12:09 AM

Kicks for turkey patternmaster for waterfowl

January 4, 2010, 07:43 PM	#1
bangbang777 Member Join Date: December 15, 2009 Posts: 26	Kicks vs Patternmaster Who is the best for duck hunting? I know the kicks is the only one you can use Black Cloud with, but I have heard great things about the Patternmaster. Any thoughts?

January 5, 2010, 06:53 AM	#3
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	It's hard to make a blanket statement that A is better than B when it comes to shotguns. The turkey load that patterns best in one barrel and choke may be all over the paper when you test it in another. With Hevishot 2s, I can swap between LM and Full and change the pattern only about 2" at 40 yards in one barrel. Same gun, different barrel, it's more like 6". Over decoys, about all you need is Mod anyway. If pass shooting, I'd try different loads and use the one giving the best 50 yard patterns.

January 26, 2010, 10:47 PM	#4
DA.Worboys Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Posts: 6	Black cloud uses a flight controled wad which mean the wad is designed to still holding the BB's out side the barrel. unlike KICKS a lot of other choke tubes will catch the wad to seperate it from the BB's. i myself shoot a benelli nova and use KICK's highflyer full and absolutly crushes the ducks and geese and use KICKS gobblin thunder .665 and i can send patterns out to 40 yards easy

January 27, 2010, 12:09 AM	#5
chaser_2332 Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2006 Location: central, ky Posts: 125	Kicks for turkey patternmaster for waterfowl