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S&W PC 460 Recall
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...ectionId=10506
Smith & Wesson has received four (4) reports of barrel failures involving its Performance Center Model 460 revolvers. These barrels were manufactured by an outside supplier. Our investigation has revealed that the quality of steel in some of these barrels did not meet the performance requirements for these firearms and may have contributed to failure of the barrel.
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Oh God, not another one!
Scared the crap out me! At least my serial number is not included in the recall, this time..... Looks like Smith is getting pretty good with the ole' punch mark.... So where does one buy an affordabl, quality firearm these days ? ![]() |
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Is it me or does it seem ludicrous that the performance center line of revolvers is outsourced. Sad.
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M&P rifles
I have read were M&P 15 rifles are put together at the factory from parts all made else where.
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Probably explains why my PC 460 has been backordered so long...
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Outsourced barrels
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S&W 460 Magnum Barrels
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As per the website, the barrel is a
•Lothar-Walther Custom German Rifle Barrel On a side note I finally got mine today, although I ended up cancelling my order with my dealer and buying one off gunbroker. Very nice gun, I'm taking it out to shoot tomorrow. |
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I have one of the first PC 460 Smiths ......Mine was recalled about 3 years ago and they replaced the barrel.....I have put about 200-300 rounds through mine and it is an awsome shooter.....I have taken 5 deer with it. The most extreme distance was about 175 yards head on....deer went down like he was run over by a truck.....I can't say any thing bad about my 460....The best deer hand gun you can buy.....
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I shot my 460 PC on Saturday. Even with just iron sights I was able to easily keep a few cylinders on a 18" circle at 200yds. Can't wait to get a scope on it.
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watch out for flame when you shoot your 460.......
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WOW what about the 500 S&W?
WOW what about the 500 S&W?
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That flash was with my 460 PC 10 1/2" My friend was taking pics and just got lucky by catching the flash......in the day light.....
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Have been wavering between FAs .454 Casull or Smiths PC .460 . Gotta admit this pushes me a little more to the 83.
And carguychris, love your quote by 'a man with no name'. I assume you know his name was actually Tuco Ramirez? (Eli Wallach) My favorite was "I like big, fat men like you. When they fall down, they make a lotta noise. And sometimes, they never get up." |
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blondie said it to tuco
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You never know... It may have been as simple as a dimensional error. Either Walther, or S&W could be the guilty party. Sometimes it is an amazingly "innocent" mistake that causes a huge problem. Now, where did I put that decimal point?.... Perhaps it could even be something along the lines of a manufacturing change that failed to consider previously calculated figures. Maybe the original models had a tighter ball end in the cylinder, and a loose barrel; but the newer models have a loose ball end, and a tighter barrel; while the newest models went back to the old design. With certain loads, the 'mid-production' ends up being a bad combination...
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Outsourcing, there were a few responses that seemed to want to make an automatic assumption that outsourcing is a downgrade.
Remington specified and ordered barrels from Shilen for it's 504 .22's, I (after much teeth pulling) got Remington to supply me with some serial number ranges that had these barrels and had a distributor go through over a hundred rifles to find me one. Remingtom oursourced barrels to attain high standards for a very nicely made rifle. The 504's I've had are tack drivers. Perhaps these outsourced barrels were an attempt to improve quality, not loosen it.
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Outsourcing is supposed to allow a company to provide a higher quality product at lower cost by taking advantage of the capabilities of other companies. That way, they don't have to spend time and money to develop everything themselves and they can focus on what they do best. It's not necessarily a bad thing if done correctly.
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