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Old August 18, 2009, 01:07 PM   #1
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Harold Fish question

Does anyone know what how close Grant Kuenzli was to Harold Fish when Harold shot him?
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Old August 18, 2009, 01:49 PM   #2
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Quoted from news archives:

Fish told Feagan that Kuenzli was running at him "full bore" and saying he was going to kill Fish.

"Fish said, 'I don't know if he thought I shot the dog. I don't know. I'm yelling at him, 'Back off, stop' and he's right on top of me and he's swinging his hands, and I couldn't see if he had anything in his hands. I don't know.'"

Continued Feagan, "Fish said, 'He looked crazy. He's coming right at me and the dogs are on both sides of me and it's bam, bam, bam, like that. I couldn't stop him.' Fish said, 'I couldn't get down because it's downhill. I had my pack on. I couldn't go anywhere.'"
That's all I could find.... only Fish knows for sure.
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Old August 18, 2009, 02:54 PM   #3
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I remember reading somewhere that the last shot was fired from 2 feet give or take a bit. I believe the instructor that taught the CCW class Harold Fish took spoke about it, and how he was surprised that his original lawyer never called him as an expert witness.

Either way, once you hear all the facts, and examine the character of both individuals involved, it's hard not to come to a positive conclusion for Mr. Fish.

Also, IIRC when the Jury foreman found out about all the evidence the judge supressed at the trial he was pretty ******, and pretty much said to the media that there was no way they would have convicted him if they had known 1/10th of all that.
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Old August 18, 2009, 03:21 PM   #4
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In Harold Fish's opening brief in his appeal it says that Mr. Fish testified, and the State's firearm expert corroborated, that he [Fish] held his fire until his assailant was almost on top of him and finally shot at a distance of some 5 to 8 feet.
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