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Old January 7, 2009, 07:12 PM   #1
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New model Sig .380 coming soon

The latest issue of Gun Week has a preview of items being unveiled at the SHOT show. Among them is a Sig .380 that looks very much like a Colt Mustang. Barrel length is listed as 2 3/4", same as a Mustang. No suggested retail price in the article.

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Old January 7, 2009, 07:43 PM   #2
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If it is half as good as their P232 it will be a solid gun, my guess will be $600+ retail. Seems a lot of manufacturers are jumping on the 380 pocket gun craze, but I truly wonder if there is a market for guns in that price range in this market? Seecamp will always take the small market willing to pay big dollars for the small mouse guns. The big manufacturers need to sell thousands of a model to keep it in production and I am just not sure they are going to find the market they are looking for. Time will tell!!!

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Old January 7, 2009, 08:53 PM   #3
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did a brief google search and saw a thread on sigforum ... someone threw out a price about $450... pretty awesome if true.
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Old January 7, 2009, 09:07 PM   #4
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I hope they put the magazine catch under the trigger one the left side (Where common sense says it should be) and use no plastic or aluminum in it, I'll want one if they do. Especially if it's available in stainless. They only thing I had against the P232 SS is the mag catch placement.
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Old January 7, 2009, 09:47 PM   #5
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Magazine release is in the traditional 1911 type position. Frame is aluminum with blue or stainless slide. Appears to be a decent set of sights on it.

I had a Mustang years ago, but traded it off and of course, regret it. I'm not willing to pay what they go for now, but if Sig makes a reasonably priced copy, I may have to look into it.
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Old January 8, 2009, 01:50 AM   #6
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Walther's new PK380 pistol is going to be announced at the ShotShow as well. Street price for the gun is said to be only $350

Here is a photo of the new pistol:



And here are the specs:

Caliber: .380 Auto
Trigger: SA, DA
Grip: Lightweight polymer
Magazine: 8 rounds
Dimensions: 6.5”L, 5.2”H, 1.2”W
Barrel Length: 3.66”
Sights: 3 Dot
Sight Radius: 5.4”
Weight incl magazine: 19.8oz
Magazine weight empty: 1.8oz
Barrel, Frame, Slide: Steel
External Hammer
Ambidextrous slide mounted manual safety
Ambidextrous trigger guard magazine release
Picatinny style accessory rail
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Old January 8, 2009, 03:16 AM   #7
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I haven't even seen this Sig you speak of, but I want one already!
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Old January 8, 2009, 03:23 AM   #8
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The Glock 26 (9mm) is smaller in every dimension compared to Walther !







LENGTH
160 mm / 6.29 in.
HEIGHT
106 mm / 4.17 in. MAG. CAPACITY
Standard: 10
OPTIONAL
12/15/17/19/33

WIDTH
30 mm / 1.18 in.
BARREL HEIGHT
32 mm / 1.26 in.

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Old January 8, 2009, 08:05 AM   #9
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* photo taken from sigforum
im not 100% sure this is what you are talking about, but there are alot of sig owners and 380 devotees that would probably buy one on principle. i seem to fit both categories, and besides...seems like im always looking for another interesting 380

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Old January 8, 2009, 11:20 AM   #10
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I am in LOVE!!!!! If that thing sells for $450 I am buying one!!! Where do I sign up?

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Old January 8, 2009, 11:24 AM   #11
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What?? No decocker on this thing!

Jury is still out on this one. I might buy it if I see in PK, but I need to be sure if there is a decocker otherwise NO.

The PK380 looks great as well. I wonder when it will hit markets in PK.
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Old January 8, 2009, 11:31 AM   #12
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Looks promising.....

With Sigs recent history I think I will not be an early adapter.....

Who will be TFL canary....... ?
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Old January 8, 2009, 11:50 AM   #13
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I hope they build it and for a price no more than $450msrp. I miss my little Colt Mustang.
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Old January 8, 2009, 11:52 AM   #14
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What?? No decocker on this thing!

Jury is still out on this one. I might buy it if I see in PK, but I need to be sure if there is a decocker otherwise NO.

The PK380 looks great as well. I wonder when it will hit markets in PK.
Why would this keep you from purchasing this gun? My wheelers don't have a decocker either, and it has never kept me from carrying one? I would put my money down on this Sig before the new Kahr, but that is just me.

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Old January 8, 2009, 12:24 PM   #15
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What?? No decocker on this thing!
Putting a decocker on a SA gun is a bit silly IMO.
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Old January 8, 2009, 12:29 PM   #16
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That pic looks like it's been PhotoShopped and chopped (ie FAKE)...
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Old January 8, 2009, 12:48 PM   #17
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That quasi-1911 trigger looks odd.
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That thing looks sharp. I'd be interested.

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Old January 8, 2009, 05:57 PM   #19
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That pic looks like it's been PhotoShopped and chopped (ie FAKE)...
aww...i thought it was a CAD drawing. anyway, im not vouching for authenticity...just posting a pic i found that seems to fit the OP's description and also his post #5. pic came from the sig forum and a thread discussing it. might be a multi-forum conspiracy.

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...1481042941/p/1
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Old January 8, 2009, 07:51 PM   #20
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That photo looks like what is shown in Gun Week, although the picture details in the paper are not as clear as the pic is kind of small and black and white.
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Old January 8, 2009, 09:04 PM   #21
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The photo indicated the new SIG is nearly a direct copy of the old Star "Starfire" DK .380. A very fine gun.
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Old January 8, 2009, 09:23 PM   #22
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If thats the route they are going, I'll pass. I have no desire for a SIG 1911 either.

Now if they downsize/single stack the P250, I'll be all over it.


As far as the mag catch being on the heel, its a lot more secure and less prone to disengagement, especially with a gun thats not in a holster. Same goes for a manual safety.

If SIG felt the need to "copy" anything, the Seecamps would be a good place to start.
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Old January 8, 2009, 10:06 PM   #23
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I'll be first in line for the P238 pictured (not the PK238). I pocket carry my Mustang a lot in the summer. A similar Sig model would be awesome.
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The Kahr P380 is supposed to start shipping the end of this month:




And here it is compared to the current smallest Kahr, the PM9:




And here are its specs:

Caliber: .380 ACP

Capacity: 6+1

Operation: Trigger cocking DAO; lock breech; "Browning - type" recoil lug; passive striker block; no magazine disconnect

Barrel: 2.5", polygonal rifling

Length O/A: 4.9"

Height: 3.9"

Slide Width: .75"

Weight Pistol: 9.97 ounces (w/o magazine)

Grips Textured polymer

Sights: Drift adjustable, white bar-dot combat sights

Finish: Black polymer frame, matte stainless steel slide

Magazines: 2 - 6 rd, Stainless
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Old January 9, 2009, 09:57 AM   #25
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I am going to buy that Walther for my girlfriend and that Sig for myself, as soon as they are available.
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