The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Semi-automatic Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 10, 2008, 09:07 PM   #1
old_ironsights
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2004
Location: ~ OKLAHOMA CITY ~
Posts: 380
For those lusting after the Ruger LCP .380...

I'm getting enjoyment from all the buzz about the mini Ruger LCP, though nothing is known about its performance, durability, reliability, etc.

I'm gonna wait 'til the smoke settlles, and other handgun owners have paid to refine and de-bug it. Then, maybe, I'll take a look at it.

'Til then, here is a reminder of a past .380 wonders...



__________________
The truth at its worst is superior
to lies at their best.
old_ironsights is offline  
Old February 10, 2008, 09:12 PM   #2
VUPDblue
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2005
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 1,981
That Grendel brings back memories...:barf:
__________________
Silencers have NEVER been illegal !
VUPDblue is offline  
Old February 10, 2008, 09:23 PM   #3
David the Gnome
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 5, 2007
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 3,092
To be fair that bottom one is a 9mm Luger.

David the Gnome is offline  
Old February 10, 2008, 10:11 PM   #4
oldgranpa
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 5, 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 209
And the "AMT" shown is not 380 but the .45acp model. There are two 380 AMT designs, the original SA and the newer DAO. The ownership has changed hands at least four times so now High Standard claims to be the mfg. which they are not. The AMT clone is now made by Firearms Int. Inc. and only marketed by HS.
Should really include the NAA Guardian 380 since it's been around awhile too.
og
Attached Images
File Type: jpg AMT 380 backup 2dgen.jpg (37.6 KB, 141 views)
oldgranpa is offline  
Old February 11, 2008, 08:39 PM   #5
fredneck
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 20, 2007
Location: Old Dominion
Posts: 136
The same dude that designed the Grendel...now runs Kel Tec. That's why I don't have a Kel Tec.

Total stone reliability in small guns is spelled S&W J frame.
fredneck is offline  
Old February 11, 2008, 10:36 PM   #6
VUPDblue
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2005
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 1,981
Quote:
Total stone reliability in small guns is spelled S&W J frame.
Amen
__________________
Silencers have NEVER been illegal !
VUPDblue is offline  
Old February 11, 2008, 11:02 PM   #7
vox rationis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 15, 2007
Posts: 1,855
Quote:
Total stone reliability in small guns is spelled S&W J frame.
Amen
Amen #2
vox rationis is offline  
Old February 12, 2008, 01:49 AM   #8
YukonKid
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 29, 2007
Location: NW
Posts: 744
Icky looking guns. I dont like weapons that small.

Doesnt glock make a .380 but it cant be imported of something like that?
__________________
This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!
YukonKid is offline  
Old February 12, 2008, 07:35 PM   #9
cold dead hands
Junior member
 
Join Date: November 14, 2007
Location: Arkansuck...I dream of the day I leave here. Never to return.
Posts: 854
Quote:
The same dude that designed the Grendel...now runs Kel Tec.
I do believe you are mistaken. As a dedicated Grendel owner I researched as much as I could about the Grendel factory before it became Kel-Tec.

I read that the owner of Grendel sold his factory to another bunch of investors/owners due to the lawsuits that were being leveled on the gun makers at the time. The owner of Grendel helped the new owners get going and then he bailed out.

You just can't compare my first generation Grendel to any of the newer Kel-Tecs because the Grendel is superior in so many ways. I will admit that I am very unenthusiastic about any Grendels that were made after they switched a number of parts over to plastic to reduce costs and increase profits. I want as much metal as possible on my guns.

The most important feature the Kel-Tec lacks is the repeat strike capability. All the Grendels had that. Kel-Tec doesn't.

Truth be told, I am not to thrilled that my choice of carry gun (in the future, when I buy my Kahr MK40) will be striker fired, but I am most likely to go with racking the slide and getting a fresh round if I an in a situation that calls for me to shoo someone and the trigger pull produced no BANG.
cold dead hands is offline  
Old February 12, 2008, 08:30 PM   #10
Wildalaska
Junior member
 
Join Date: November 25, 2002
Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 14,172
Quote:
Total stone reliability in small guns is spelled S&W J frame.
Lou Seecamp would disagree

WildpopgunAlaska TM
Wildalaska is offline  
Old February 12, 2008, 08:57 PM   #11
Wuchak
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 1, 2007
Location: Shawnee, KS
Posts: 1,093
Kel-tec and Grendel are separate companies but Geore Kellgren is the main designer behind both of their guns. According to wikipedia:
Kel-Tec is a privately-owned Florida corporation. George Kellgren is an owner, and is the Chief Engineer. He is the Swedish designer who also designed many earlier Husqvarna (in Sweden), Swedish Interdynamics AB (in Sweden), Intratec, and Grendel brand firearms.

Some of his designs have been excellent and others not much. He seems to have learned from his earlier mistakes and the designs for Kel-tec are excellent and innovative. I wish he would take another crack at a rimfire. The Grendel P-30 was a great idea. I'd like to see him try an updated version of that and a .22lr version.
Wuchak is offline  
Old February 12, 2008, 09:40 PM   #12
Kreyzhorse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2006
Location: NKY
Posts: 12,158
My God, that Smith & Wesson is the ugliest gun I've ever seen. :barf: Hard to believe it didn't last....

As a side note, I am interested in the Ruger .380, but I'll wait and see how it fares for a year or two.
__________________
"He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson
Kreyzhorse is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.08282 seconds with 8 queries