Clinton and the chinese arms market

dZ · August 14, 1999, 01:10 PM

ever read this? http://www.federal.com/jun01-98/Start
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Quid quo pro or not, this president needs to explain why his
administration waived its own gun law for a Chinese princeling
arms merchant whose lieutenants were intent on smuggling even
more to firepower to American street gangs.[/quote]

"ASSAULT WEAPONS" FOR U.S.

But of all the decisions, waivers and export liberalizations
executed on behalf of the Chinese by the Clinton White House,
none rivals what the administration did for Wang Jun, the
princeling chairman of China's state owned arms conglomerate,
Poly Technologies. For years, China had been doing a land office
business exporting to the U.S. semi-automatic rifles and ammo
made by Poly and another arms manufacturer, Norinco. Reportedly,
the gun trade was worth hundreds of millions of dollars annually
to the PRC. But suddenly in 1994, there was a problem: the
Clinton Assault Weapons Ban. Overnight, China's weapons cash cow
evaporated.

Not to worry. According to a Scripps Howard report by Michael
Hedges, which ran on the front page of the March 14, 1997 edition
of the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, the Clinton administration
granted Wang Jun's Poly Technologies importation permits to flood
America with over 100,000 semi-automatic weapons and millions of
rounds of ammunition -- despite the president's own cherished gun
ban. That was on Feb. 2, 1996 -- just days before Clinton issued
the first satellite waivers for Loral Corp.

It gets worse. On Feb. 6, just four days after the assault
weapon waivers were issued, Wang Jun was ushered into the White
House for a personal meeting with Bill Clinton. Wang's escort
was Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie, who had laundered over $600,000 from
Chinese sources for the Clinton Defense Fund. Combined with his
campaign donations to the DNC, Trie's total contributions to
Clinton coffers topped the million dollar mark in 1996. For that
kind of money, it's a good bet Charlie Trie could bring anybody
he wanted to the White House.

And Charlie Trie wasn't Wang's only solid White House reference.
Charlie had worked with longtime F.O.B. Ernest Green to get Wang
a U.S. visa, though Wang conveniently forgot to mention that he
was a Communist arms dealer on the visa application. Had he
disclosed that fact, Wang Jun would never have been let in the
country, let alone the White House. The day after Wang's visit
with Clinton, Ernie Green's wife donated $50,000 to the DNC.

Except for these import waivers, issued two years after Poly's
rifles had been banned at the president's own direction, there
would have been no legal U.S. market for Wang Jun's guns.

Michael Hedges interviewed lawyers involved in negotiating the
deal, nearly all of whom were stunned when Poly Technologies got
the exclusive approval. "All of a sudden there was a
breakthrough. I can't account for it.", said one attorney.
Another admitted that the Clinton administration had been tying
other arms importers in knots to keep guns out of the country
because the president was opposed. He described the abrupt
turnaround in U.S. import policy as "highly suspicious". And
this was from a guy who was working to make this deal happen.

Last year, Hedges told me that his evidence included signed
copies of the importation permits for Wang Jun's guns. Between
the on-the-record interviews and the documentation, his expose
was rock solid. Yet, despite the fact that the implications of
his report were absolutely staggering, only one New York or
Washington paper thought its readers were entitled to this news.
Eleven days later, The New York Daily News followed up on the
Wang Jun 100,000 gun story.

News Columnist Michael Daly managed to uncover the destination
for Wang's 100,000 guns: a Detroit firm which investigators have
linked to the Chinese Armed Police. The Chinese Armed Police
used similar assault rifles to mow down demonstrators in
Tiananmen Square in 1989.

The massive gun shipment would have gone through, flooding
America's cities with weapons ruled inappropriate by the Clinton
administration, but the deal was suspended in the wake of the
aforementioned COSCO connected smuggling operation - which was
short-circuited by federal agents just weeks after Wang Jun's
importation waivers were granted. On the night of March 18,
1996, undercover Customs and BATF agents accepted delivery of
guns smuggled aboard the COSCO ship Empress Phoenix, as part of
an ongoing sting operation dubbed "Dragon Fire." The undercover
agents had lured the Chinese into making a trial shipment of
Chinese machine guns: a dry run set up to establish a working
relationship before the Chinese granted access to their full
inventory. Besides the smuggled guns, which they recommended for
the California street gang market, the Chinese operatives
explained that they were ready to sell everything from grenade
launchers to shoulder fired Red Parakeet surface to air missiles,
which they boasted could "take out a 747". (Coincidentally, a
Boeing 747 was taken out over the skies of Long Island just
months later.) That March night, federal agents secretly
unpacked COSCO crates containing 2,000 Poly Technologies AK-47's
delivered from the hold of the Empress Phoenix. It was the
largest seizure of fully operational automatic weapons in the
history of U. S. law enforcement.

Jim V · August 14, 1999, 05:31 PM

DZ, Willie would sell Chelsea and Hillery if it grought him lotsa money and power. Why does anyone doubt that he'd sell out his own "ideals".

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"

DHH · August 14, 1999, 08:01 PM

Clinton's not the only Democrat who would sell his soul to gain and keep power. This was in today's news.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Saturday August 14 3:11 PM ET
Chung: Democrats Advised Him On Taking The 5th

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic fund raiser Johnny Chung, a key figure in the 1996 campaign finance scandal, said Saturday Democrats told him how to plead the fifth amendment before he testified to Congress in 1997.
Speaking in an interview to air on the Fox News Channel Monday, Chung said he received a package on ``how to plead the fifth'' from the chief counsel for the Democrats on the Government Reform and Oversight Committee where he was set to testify.
``At the very beginning of 1997, the Democrat side of the Government Reform Committee sent a package to my office, to my attorney's office,'' Chung said in the interview, adding that the package, ``Tried to teach me how to plead -- take the fifth.''
Pleading the fifth amendment allows a witness to avoid answering questions which could lead to self-incriminating responses. Legal experts said it would be highly unusual for counsel to a congressional panel to offer legal advice to a witness such as Chung.
Chung, a Taiwanese-born businessman, appeared before the congressional panel in a five-hour closed session in November 1997. He was called to testify again in May of this year after claims that his account differed from press reports of what he told federal investigators.
Chung has been cooperating with a Justice Department task force probing allegations of illegal Democratic fund-raising in 1996. He told the panel in May that he helped funnel $300,000 from a high-ranking Chinese military officer to President Clinton's re-election campaign. China has denied the charge.
Chung was given five years probation in December after striking a deal with prosecutors and pleading guilty to charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and making illegal contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign.[/quote]

dZ · August 14, 1999, 08:46 PM

yet a bushmaster lower is found in Buford's van and GW Bush is culpable?

?!

dZ

**4V50 Gary** · August 15, 1999, 12:43 AM

It's amazing what a good dish of pork fried rice will get you in Washington. Politicians are whores and Clinton leads the pack.

Quite a few guns being taken from the gangs in SF Bay Area aren't imported legally. This includes Glocks. Gun Control freaks don't seem to take notice of this though.

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Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt

Dennis · August 15, 1999, 08:39 AM

Gary,
"Politicians are whores"? ... Agreed.

If you *must* use the services of a whore, you don't pick one who hurts you and goes against your every wish.

If you must *buy* a politician, buy the one who will do what you want done.

Vote - for a change.

dZ · December 20, 2002, 11:28 PM

never forget!

clem · December 20, 2002, 11:31 PM

Why is this man not in jail?

And,

You can trust whores.

C.R.Sam · December 21, 2002, 10:01 PM

Unless a politician uses his own private funds to secure election he is beholdin to his sponsors.

The votes are bought and paid for.
The sponsors hold the reins.

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August 14, 1999, 01:10 PM	#1
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	ever read this? http://www.federal.com/jun01-98/Start <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Quid quo pro or not, this president needs to explain why his administration waived its own gun law for a Chinese princeling arms merchant whose lieutenants were intent on smuggling even more to firepower to American street gangs.[/quote] "ASSAULT WEAPONS" FOR U.S. But of all the decisions, waivers and export liberalizations executed on behalf of the Chinese by the Clinton White House, none rivals what the administration did for Wang Jun, the princeling chairman of China's state owned arms conglomerate, Poly Technologies. For years, China had been doing a land office business exporting to the U.S. semi-automatic rifles and ammo made by Poly and another arms manufacturer, Norinco. Reportedly, the gun trade was worth hundreds of millions of dollars annually to the PRC. But suddenly in 1994, there was a problem: the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban. Overnight, China's weapons cash cow evaporated. Not to worry. According to a Scripps Howard report by Michael Hedges, which ran on the front page of the March 14, 1997 edition of the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, the Clinton administration granted Wang Jun's Poly Technologies importation permits to flood America with over 100,000 semi-automatic weapons and millions of rounds of ammunition -- despite the president's own cherished gun ban. That was on Feb. 2, 1996 -- just days before Clinton issued the first satellite waivers for Loral Corp. It gets worse. On Feb. 6, just four days after the assault weapon waivers were issued, Wang Jun was ushered into the White House for a personal meeting with Bill Clinton. Wang's escort was Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie, who had laundered over $600,000 from Chinese sources for the Clinton Defense Fund. Combined with his campaign donations to the DNC, Trie's total contributions to Clinton coffers topped the million dollar mark in 1996. For that kind of money, it's a good bet Charlie Trie could bring anybody he wanted to the White House. And Charlie Trie wasn't Wang's only solid White House reference. Charlie had worked with longtime F.O.B. Ernest Green to get Wang a U.S. visa, though Wang conveniently forgot to mention that he was a Communist arms dealer on the visa application. Had he disclosed that fact, Wang Jun would never have been let in the country, let alone the White House. The day after Wang's visit with Clinton, Ernie Green's wife donated $50,000 to the DNC. Except for these import waivers, issued two years after Poly's rifles had been banned at the president's own direction, there would have been no legal U.S. market for Wang Jun's guns. Michael Hedges interviewed lawyers involved in negotiating the deal, nearly all of whom were stunned when Poly Technologies got the exclusive approval. "All of a sudden there was a breakthrough. I can't account for it.", said one attorney. Another admitted that the Clinton administration had been tying other arms importers in knots to keep guns out of the country because the president was opposed. He described the abrupt turnaround in U.S. import policy as "highly suspicious". And this was from a guy who was working to make this deal happen. Last year, Hedges told me that his evidence included signed copies of the importation permits for Wang Jun's guns. Between the on-the-record interviews and the documentation, his expose was rock solid. Yet, despite the fact that the implications of his report were absolutely staggering, only one New York or Washington paper thought its readers were entitled to this news. Eleven days later, The New York Daily News followed up on the Wang Jun 100,000 gun story. News Columnist Michael Daly managed to uncover the destination for Wang's 100,000 guns: a Detroit firm which investigators have linked to the Chinese Armed Police. The Chinese Armed Police used similar assault rifles to mow down demonstrators in Tiananmen Square in 1989. The massive gun shipment would have gone through, flooding America's cities with weapons ruled inappropriate by the Clinton administration, but the deal was suspended in the wake of the aforementioned COSCO connected smuggling operation - which was short-circuited by federal agents just weeks after Wang Jun's importation waivers were granted. On the night of March 18, 1996, undercover Customs and BATF agents accepted delivery of guns smuggled aboard the COSCO ship Empress Phoenix, as part of an ongoing sting operation dubbed "Dragon Fire." The undercover agents had lured the Chinese into making a trial shipment of Chinese machine guns: a dry run set up to establish a working relationship before the Chinese granted access to their full inventory. Besides the smuggled guns, which they recommended for the California street gang market, the Chinese operatives explained that they were ready to sell everything from grenade launchers to shoulder fired Red Parakeet surface to air missiles, which they boasted could "take out a 747". (Coincidentally, a Boeing 747 was taken out over the skies of Long Island just months later.) That March night, federal agents secretly unpacked COSCO crates containing 2,000 Poly Technologies AK-47's delivered from the hold of the Empress Phoenix. It was the largest seizure of fully operational automatic weapons in the history of U. S. law enforcement.

August 14, 1999, 05:31 PM	#2
Jim V Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 1999 Location: SE Michigan - USA Posts: 4,038	DZ, Willie would sell Chelsea and Hillery if it grought him lotsa money and power. Why does anyone doubt that he'd sell out his own "ideals". ------------------ Ne Conjuge Nobiscum "If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"

August 14, 1999, 08:01 PM	#3
DHH Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 1999 Location: PA Posts: 115	Clinton's not the only Democrat who would sell his soul to gain and keep power. This was in today's news. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Saturday August 14 3:11 PM ET Chung: Democrats Advised Him On Taking The 5th WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic fund raiser Johnny Chung, a key figure in the 1996 campaign finance scandal, said Saturday Democrats told him how to plead the fifth amendment before he testified to Congress in 1997. Speaking in an interview to air on the Fox News Channel Monday, Chung said he received a package on ``how to plead the fifth'' from the chief counsel for the Democrats on the Government Reform and Oversight Committee where he was set to testify. ``At the very beginning of 1997, the Democrat side of the Government Reform Committee sent a package to my office, to my attorney's office,'' Chung said in the interview, adding that the package, ``Tried to teach me how to plead -- take the fifth.'' Pleading the fifth amendment allows a witness to avoid answering questions which could lead to self-incriminating responses. Legal experts said it would be highly unusual for counsel to a congressional panel to offer legal advice to a witness such as Chung. Chung, a Taiwanese-born businessman, appeared before the congressional panel in a five-hour closed session in November 1997. He was called to testify again in May of this year after claims that his account differed from press reports of what he told federal investigators. Chung has been cooperating with a Justice Department task force probing allegations of illegal Democratic fund-raising in 1996. He told the panel in May that he helped funnel $300,000 from a high-ranking Chinese military officer to President Clinton's re-election campaign. China has denied the charge. Chung was given five years probation in December after striking a deal with prosecutors and pleading guilty to charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and making illegal contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign.[/quote]

August 14, 1999, 08:46 PM	#4
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	yet a bushmaster lower is found in Buford's van and GW Bush is culpable? ?! dZ

August 15, 1999, 12:43 AM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 20,773	It's amazing what a good dish of pork fried rice will get you in Washington. Politicians are whores and Clinton leads the pack. Quite a few guns being taken from the gangs in SF Bay Area aren't imported legally. This includes Glocks. Gun Control freaks don't seem to take notice of this though. ------------------ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt

August 15, 1999, 08:39 AM	#6
Dennis Staff Emeritus Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	Gary, "Politicians are whores"? ... Agreed. If you must use the services of a whore, you don't pick one who hurts you and goes against your every wish. If you must buy a politician, buy the one who will do what you want done. Vote - for a change.

December 20, 2002, 11:31 PM	#8
clem Junior member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 847	Why is this man not in jail? And, You can trust whores.

December 21, 2002, 10:01 PM	#9
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Unless a politician uses his own private funds to secure election he is beholdin to his sponsors. The votes are bought and paid for. The sponsors hold the reins.