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Old January 21, 2007, 11:45 AM   #1
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Putting an 8 shot cylinder in a L frame gun?

I have heard of this before, and wanted to know how truly plausable this was. Also, since S&W has a J frame 8-shot performance center gun I figure it shouldn't be too impossible.

How hard/expensive would it be to rig a L frame (like the 686+) to have a 8 shot cylinder?

I can see a couple advantages to this,

#1. It's a lot cheaper to obtain an 8 round capacity this way than dropping $800+ for a revolver.

#2. For the price of having my cylinder machined to accept moonclips, I can also add an extra shot to my gun.

#3. In self defense, everyshot counts and I would love to carry a revolver that held the same capacity as the Colt .45.
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Old January 21, 2007, 11:50 AM   #2
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You probably could make an 8 shot L frame, but it would be a 32 caliber.

You can only make so many holes in a given piece of metal.
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Old January 21, 2007, 12:12 PM   #3
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That's why you use the larger cylinder from the N frame guns! I'm not talking about maching 8 slots in the L frame cylinder. I've heard of guys swapping out 6 shot cylinders on their 686's for 7 shots. I'm just curious if the same can be done with the 8 shot cylinders. They have a 2" snubbie with a 8 shot cylinder!!!
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Old January 21, 2007, 12:29 PM   #4
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8 round snubby

S&W 327PC 8 shot x 357 2" is a N frame.
L frame takes no more than 7x38 or 6x40.
There is not enough metal to enlarge the L frame window to accept N cylinder
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Old January 22, 2007, 08:03 PM   #5
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They already have a 10 shot L-frame in 22. You don't sound like a 22 kind of guy.

If you think you can shoe horn in an 8 shot N-frame cylinder in 357 for less than $800, I'd love to see the result. No photoshop images please. I already know this isn't physically possible.
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Old January 22, 2007, 11:24 PM   #6
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if you need 8 shots that bad get a taurus 608, unfortunatly they don't have the blued one anymore that went for $350 brand new, but the stainless is still alot cheaper than an S&W.
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Old January 23, 2007, 12:31 AM   #7
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PC does not make an 8 shot J frame.

There is no 10 shot L frame 22.

The N frame cylinder will not fit into an L frame (or any other smaller frame for that matter).
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Old January 23, 2007, 01:16 AM   #8
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To maintain the position of the yoke (and if you don't, you are talking about more machining) you would have to remove material above and below.
Now the firing pin is off center, as is the barrel. That is more than just removing material.
Of course, the frame itself is weaker, so material could be added.
Assuming all the heat of welding and machining did not weaken the frame and assuming that the additional materal could somehow be added seamlessly (both totally invalid assumptions), you've basically created an N-frame with L-frame grips.
You would be looking at something closer to $8K than $800, if somebody would try at all. Then I'd like to see pictures of the users hands after using full power ammo.

The only think you could fit into a J-frame for eight shots is .22LR.
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Old January 23, 2007, 02:10 AM   #9
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"...How hard..." For two shots it's more trouble and expense than it's worth.
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Old January 23, 2007, 11:51 AM   #10
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I believe you would also have to have the timing altered. A 6 shot cylinder has the chambers at 60 degree intervals, the 8 shot would have them at 45 degrees.
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Old January 27, 2007, 12:07 AM   #11
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S&W Did make a L Frame Centennial, The 242 & 296..
I have a 7 Shot 242Ti that weighs in @ 18.9ozs
S&W 242 Ti 7 Shot 38+P


I added a fiber Optic Sight To The Little Big Gun Today
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Old January 27, 2007, 10:17 AM   #12
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IIRC the M-617 is a 10 shot, L-frame 22. It was also available as a standard 6-shot. Regards 18DAI.
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Old January 27, 2007, 11:13 AM   #13
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617 is a K-frame. The full under-lug just makes it look like its bigger brother the 686.

BTW, I have an 8 shot J-frame BUT its a 22 lr! (S&W 317)

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