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Old September 12, 2006, 08:57 PM   #26
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I traded off my 22 rifles and bought a Ruger 96 lever action carbine in 17 HMR for $270. A new carbine discounted from a shop in Michigan that I found thru This 17 will shoot into a dime sized group at 75 yards. No kidding!

This 17 has knocked off several dozen prairie dogs. None got away. We don't have the big grey tree squirrels of Illinois or Iowa here in the Black Hills. But I'm certain this 17 would knock 'em out of a tree at longer distances better than the average 22 LR.

Years ago, I was stationed at Chanute AFB, ILL. Abundant tree squirrels along the banks of the Sangamon River and they fell to low base 16 gauge shells with ease. Seems like shotgun is the way to go when leaves are still sticken' to the trees.
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Old September 13, 2006, 02:41 PM   #27
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Most accurate .22LR w/ scope (mine is a Marlin 60)

.270 which will take anything you like, with good shot placement)---30-06 a VERY close second. With lighter bullets the .270 can be pressed into service as a "varmint" gun.

If I only had these (plus the 12 gauge) I could do everything I'd ever need to do.
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Old September 13, 2006, 08:13 PM   #28
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Springfield 06 and Ruger 77-22. Happy trials....I mean trails.
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Old September 18, 2006, 06:17 PM   #29
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If you reload, .22Hornet and .30-06.....
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Old September 29, 2006, 06:15 PM   #30
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keep the guns and get the wife a 2nd job, then buy what ya really want
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Old October 4, 2006, 06:43 PM   #31
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My vote goes with the .22mag and either a .30-06 or .300Weatherby mag.

You're not gonna want to do a bunch of load changes and/or re-sighting if your goal is hunting, fishing and travel. If you vary your .444 loads as much as folks suggest, you will be spending a lot of time at ranges.

Find a good, multipurpose bullet in .30 caliber (165 or 180gr Remington CoreLokts come to mind... cheap, reliable, available and good) and use only that load. If you want everything from elk to deer to black bear, I'd say .30-06 with 180's. I'm going elk hunting at the end of the month with a .308 with 180gr loads. My brother's going on his first hunting trip with me, and he's carrying my old 30-30 with 170gr loads.

Sounds like a good retirement plan though. Good luck with that!
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