Amazing shot cited as self-defense. Police bullet lodged in gunman's weapon

oystermick · April 27, 2006, 08:08 PM

A highly improbable shot left an officer's bullet in the cylinder of a gunman's revolver..

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...gfollow27.html

loosecannon · April 27, 2006, 10:49 PM

The police officer ruined a perfectly good revolver.

Does anyone know what model it is? It looks like it could be an old target model Colt. It was in pretty good condition except the grips are broken. That may have also happened when it was dropped.

Abndoc · April 27, 2006, 10:51 PM

Ever wonder why if you stare at a pothole in the road, you will hit it most of the time? Your body has a way of going where ever your eyes are pointing. The same thing applys to shooting. Bad guy has a gun, cop fixates on it. Round goes to where eyes are looking.

Still, an amazing, if unintended shot. The Lone Ranger would be proud.

rhgunguy · April 27, 2006, 11:03 PM

That is the coolest thing I have ever seen! God must have been watching out for that cop.

DWARREN123 · April 28, 2006, 02:28 AM

How did an 18yo with mental impairment get a firearm much less a revolver?

invention_45 · April 28, 2006, 08:49 AM

That's sorta like a hole-in-one. Where's his million-dollar prize?

Polydorus · April 28, 2006, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invention_45

That's sorta like a hole-in-one. Where's his million-dollar prize?

They are both unharmed so perhaps that is reward enough?

leadcounsel · April 28, 2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

How did an 18yo with mental impairment get a firearm much less a revolver?

Yeah, I thought that was illegal and hence couldn't happen in our society?

Anthony2 · April 28, 2006, 01:10 PM

"Yeah, I thought that was illegal and hence couldn't happen in our society?"

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Please tell me that was a whole truckload of sarcasm?

If not can I ask a question with no offense intended?

Do you live your life with your head in the sand? I'm assuming not, as you're intelligent enough to be at the very least indirectly involved and interested in firearms.............

I'm sorry....I thought questions like that only came from sheeple, not those of us who are independant and informed.

Dfariswheel · April 28, 2006, 07:13 PM

A study of shooting incidents involving both parties being armed, shows an amazingly high number of hits on guns and gun hands.

In a high percentage of shootings, having participants with bullet-strike damaged guns and injuries to the hand or arm is actually quite common.

As above, bullets tend to "follow" where the eyes are looking.

**44 AMP** · April 28, 2006, 07:56 PM

Sometimes, things just line up. The "shoot the enemy sniper through his scope" thing in Saving Private Ryan really did happen (at least once), documented, in Vietnam. Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock, Marine sniper did this. Kept the rifle as a trophy. Read about him, tremendous stuff.

Harley Quinn · April 28, 2006, 08:12 PM

The amount of shootings and killing are similar to what is going on in California.

If you just stopped to think about the amout of deaths in the US of A each month in the larger cities you would be amazed.

I have been following numerous stories and every time you go into the news paper of the town it is the same, x amount of deaths this month blah blah.

It is because of the weather or the drugs or the moon or the lack of desire to live. Numerous are similar, suicide by cop.

Pretty sad.

Can you imagine if all the guns were confiscated how nice it would be to go to the market and not get shot? LOL.

Yea right. Then it would be ball bats and spears and bows and arrows or swords, knives, zip guns. hmmm
Humanity is a bloody lot and always has been. The Palistinians have rocks by the millions so that is what they use.

It will never change, take that to the bank. So first line of defense is to be aware of your surroundings and try to be careful when you are out and about.

Last but not least, I don't think "God" has anything to do with it. It is man.

I know my bad, so don't bring his name up. Simple. I can really go wild on that subject about who he is protecting and who he isn't, but I won't.

HQ

JuanJose-Hernandez · April 29, 2006, 09:31 AM

i have heard it said that you will hit whatever you focus on the most when you are shooting with insinct. the policeman must have focused on the pistol and shot his gun without looking. i dont think you could do it twice.

**Rich Lucibella** · April 29, 2006, 09:41 AM

It is not at all unusual in shoot house situations to see multiple hits in and around the weapons for the exact reasons JJH states. To me, it demonstrates only that the officer had clearly identified the threat as a firearm.
Good shoot!
Rich

loosecannon · April 29, 2006, 03:12 PM

The revolver that was shot sure looks like a Colt Officers model match. If so it hasn't been produced for around 50 years and is a collectors item.

auberg · April 29, 2006, 06:14 PM

kinda reminds me of that video footage of the police sniper shooting the gun out of the hand of a sucidial guy. Brilliant shooting on both.

Rainbow Six · April 29, 2006, 07:47 PM

Guy points gun at two cops. The cops fire and lodge one of their rounds in the guy's revolver cylinder. What are the odds of that? I guess it removes all doubt as to the justification of the shooting.

Bullet lodged in bad guy's revolver...

RickB · April 29, 2006, 08:05 PM

I witnessed a similar, but less-serious, miracle shot, last weekend. We have some pepper poppers that some idiot had shot with a rifle, so there were 1/2" holes in them. As I was taping paper targets, I was thinking about people claiming they'd put two shots through one hole, Jimmy Stewart shooting holes through coins in "Winchester '73", etc., and decided to put tape over the holes in the steel. Sure enough, the next shooter fires a round at one of them, at about ten yards, and I hear no "clang" indicating a hit, but I see the tape disappear - the guy had put a round, a .45 round - right through the hole.

**Bud Helms** · April 29, 2006, 08:45 PM

Threads merged.

oldbillthundercheif · April 29, 2006, 09:27 PM

At a recent range-session me and my buddy Al were feeling bored with center-of-mass shots on our bad-guy w/gun targets and both tried to put one directly on the muzzle of the target-guy's gun. We both did it eventually, but Al did it on his first shot. And I'm the one with all the olympic and service training... I'll never hear the end of this.

Crosshair · April 29, 2006, 10:31 PM

One time I was shooting my Savage 22-250, that has a light trigger, I sneeze and the gun goes off. I look at the target 200 yards away and I put the bullet straight through the bullseye. I really should have saved the target though.

tegemu · April 30, 2006, 07:37 AM

Since he had just had a disagreement with his girlfriend suggesting despondancy, and had commented that if confronted by police, he would use his gun, it sure sounds like Suicide by Cop to me.

Harley Quinn · April 30, 2006, 01:18 PM

The barrel of the gun was a 38 cal = 357. 40 cal =410, not much difference, but it is truly amazing with that in mind.

Now if it was a 44 it would be, not quite so amazing because it would be bigger. But I guess the gun has been identified as a 38, is that the case or are we guessing. Look's like a 44 spl to me.
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Thanks for the good work Rich. Nice post regarding your humble opinion on the topic that is going to be raging for the next week or so. Keep up the good work, love the site and the mag.
May you live long, and have a great hunting life. Thanks for the memories.

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rxrick · April 30, 2006, 06:21 PM

How many times have you heard the cliche "Just shoot the gun out of his hand"? It appears some Seattle cops did just that:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...ml?source=mypi

Rick

Rainbow Six · April 30, 2006, 08:07 PM

I posted that yesterday but it disappeared. I guess it got deleted. Maybe yours will stick around.

And yeah, what are the odds?

April 27, 2006, 08:08 PM	#1
oystermick Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Posts: 197	Amazing shot cited as self-defense. Police bullet lodged in gunman's weapon A highly improbable shot left an officer's bullet in the cylinder of a gunman's revolver.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...gfollow27.html __________________ "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed- unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." - James Madison

April 28, 2006, 01:10 PM	#9
Anthony2 Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 360	"Yeah, I thought that was illegal and hence couldn't happen in our society?" ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Please tell me that was a whole truckload of sarcasm? If not can I ask a question with no offense intended? Do you live your life with your head in the sand? I'm assuming not, as you're intelligent enough to be at the very least indirectly involved and interested in firearms............. I'm sorry....I thought questions like that only came from sheeple, not those of us who are independant and informed. __________________ "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."-Voltaire "Baaa or Freedom!" - Ted Nugent "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth." - Ghandi "The Addiction to Guns, The only addiction to ever SAVE a life!"- Me

April 28, 2006, 07:56 PM	#11
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,820	it happens Sometimes, things just line up. The "shoot the enemy sniper through his scope" thing in Saving Private Ryan really did happen (at least once), documented, in Vietnam. Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock, Marine sniper did this. Kept the rifle as a trophy. Read about him, tremendous stuff.

April 28, 2006, 08:12 PM	#12
Harley Quinn Junior member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: State of KALI Posts: 1,531	The story is even more amazing The amount of shootings and killing are similar to what is going on in California. If you just stopped to think about the amout of deaths in the US of A each month in the larger cities you would be amazed. I have been following numerous stories and every time you go into the news paper of the town it is the same, x amount of deaths this month blah blah. It is because of the weather or the drugs or the moon or the lack of desire to live. Numerous are similar, suicide by cop. Pretty sad. Can you imagine if all the guns were confiscated how nice it would be to go to the market and not get shot? LOL. Yea right. Then it would be ball bats and spears and bows and arrows or swords, knives, zip guns. hmmm Humanity is a bloody lot and always has been. The Palistinians have rocks by the millions so that is what they use. It will never change, take that to the bank. So first line of defense is to be aware of your surroundings and try to be careful when you are out and about. Last but not least, I don't think "God" has anything to do with it. It is man. I know my bad, so don't bring his name up. Simple. I can really go wild on that subject about who he is protecting and who he isn't, but I won't. HQ

April 29, 2006, 09:41 AM	#14
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	It is not at all unusual in shoot house situations to see multiple hits in and around the weapons for the exact reasons JJH states. To me, it demonstrates only that the officer had clearly identified the threat as a firearm. Good shoot! Rich __________________ S.W.A.T. Magazine Weapons, Training and Tactics for the Real World Join us at TFL or at AR15.com or on Facebook

April 27, 2006, 10:49 PM	#2
loosecannon Junior member Join Date: January 6, 2006 Posts: 168	The police officer ruined a perfectly good revolver. Does anyone know what model it is? It looks like it could be an old target model Colt. It was in pretty good condition except the grips are broken. That may have also happened when it was dropped.

April 27, 2006, 10:51 PM	#3
Abndoc Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2006 Location: Kalifornia Posts: 727	Ever wonder why if you stare at a pothole in the road, you will hit it most of the time? Your body has a way of going where ever your eyes are pointing. The same thing applys to shooting. Bad guy has a gun, cop fixates on it. Round goes to where eyes are looking. Still, an amazing, if unintended shot. The Lone Ranger would be proud.

April 27, 2006, 11:03 PM	#4
rhgunguy Junior member Join Date: March 7, 2006 Posts: 1,057	That is the coolest thing I have ever seen! God must have been watching out for that cop.

April 28, 2006, 02:28 AM	#5
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2006 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 1,758	How did an 18yo with mental impairment get a firearm much less a revolver?

April 28, 2006, 08:49 AM	#6
invention_45 Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2006 Location: Broward County Posts: 972	That's sorta like a hole-in-one. Where's his million-dollar prize?

April 28, 2006, 07:13 PM	#10
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	A study of shooting incidents involving both parties being armed, shows an amazingly high number of hits on guns and gun hands. In a high percentage of shootings, having participants with bullet-strike damaged guns and injuries to the hand or arm is actually quite common. As above, bullets tend to "follow" where the eyes are looking.

April 29, 2006, 09:31 AM	#13
JuanJose-Hernandez Junior Member Join Date: April 29, 2006 Location: upstate sc Posts: 8	i have heard it said that you will hit whatever you focus on the most when you are shooting with insinct. the policeman must have focused on the pistol and shot his gun without looking. i dont think you could do it twice.

April 29, 2006, 03:12 PM	#15
loosecannon Junior member Join Date: January 6, 2006 Posts: 168	The revolver that was shot sure looks like a Colt Officers model match. If so it hasn't been produced for around 50 years and is a collectors item.

April 29, 2006, 06:14 PM	#16
auberg Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2005 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 243	kinda reminds me of that video footage of the police sniper shooting the gun out of the hand of a sucidial guy. Brilliant shooting on both. __________________ "I don't have to like it, I just have to do it."

April 29, 2006, 07:47 PM	#17
Rainbow Six Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2000 Location: West Georgia, USA Posts: 1,314	What are the odds of this shot? Guy points gun at two cops. The cops fire and lodge one of their rounds in the guy's revolver cylinder. What are the odds of that? I guess it removes all doubt as to the justification of the shooting. Bullet lodged in bad guy's revolver... __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum... "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Jeff Cooper

April 29, 2006, 08:05 PM	#18
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	I witnessed a similar, but less-serious, miracle shot, last weekend. We have some pepper poppers that some idiot had shot with a rifle, so there were 1/2" holes in them. As I was taping paper targets, I was thinking about people claiming they'd put two shots through one hole, Jimmy Stewart shooting holes through coins in "Winchester '73", etc., and decided to put tape over the holes in the steel. Sure enough, the next shooter fires a round at one of them, at about ten yards, and I hear no "clang" indicating a hit, but I see the tape disappear - the guy had put a round, a .45 round - right through the hole.

April 29, 2006, 08:45 PM	#19
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Threads merged.

April 29, 2006, 09:27 PM	#20
oldbillthundercheif Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 2,450	At a recent range-session me and my buddy Al were feeling bored with center-of-mass shots on our bad-guy w/gun targets and both tried to put one directly on the muzzle of the target-guy's gun. We both did it eventually, but Al did it on his first shot. And I'm the one with all the olympic and service training... I'll never hear the end of this.

April 29, 2006, 10:31 PM	#21
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	One time I was shooting my Savage 22-250, that has a light trigger, I sneeze and the gun goes off. I look at the target 200 yards away and I put the bullet straight through the bullseye. I really should have saved the target though. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

April 30, 2006, 07:37 AM	#22
tegemu Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2005 Location: Orange Park, Fla Posts: 1,019	Since he had just had a disagreement with his girlfriend suggesting despondancy, and had commented that if confronted by police, he would use his gun, it sure sounds like Suicide by Cop to me. __________________ People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence in their behalf. - George Orwell

April 30, 2006, 01:18 PM	#23
Harley Quinn Junior member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: State of KALI Posts: 1,531	Funny the bullet that was lodged was a 40 cal The barrel of the gun was a 38 cal = 357. 40 cal =410, not much difference, but it is truly amazing with that in mind. Now if it was a 44 it would be, not quite so amazing because it would be bigger. But I guess the gun has been identified as a 38, is that the case or are we guessing. Look's like a 44 spl to me. **** Just a little pat on the back of a very generous and great host. Rich Lucibella. Thanks for the good work Rich. Nice post regarding your humble opinion on the topic that is going to be raging for the next week or so. Keep up the good work, love the site and the mag. May you live long, and have a great hunting life. Thanks for the memories. HQ

April 30, 2006, 06:21 PM	#24
rxrick Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 139	Amazing shot! How many times have you heard the cliche "Just shoot the gun out of his hand"? It appears some Seattle cops did just that: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...ml?source=mypi Rick __________________ Rx Rick Q: Are we not men? A: We are Revo

April 30, 2006, 08:07 PM	#25
Rainbow Six Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2000 Location: West Georgia, USA Posts: 1,314	I posted that yesterday but it disappeared. I guess it got deleted. Maybe yours will stick around. And yeah, what are the odds? __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum... "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Jeff Cooper