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Old March 14, 2006, 04:58 PM   #1
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.45LC or .357 for pigs and deer?

Looking at a EMF Harford carbine 1892 for CAS but would also like to use it occassionally for pigs and whitetails in Texas. Which bullet is better for pigs up to around 200 lbs? I gather the .45LC is a larger, but slower bullet and the .357 is a faster, but smaller bullet. So, which is best for medium sized game animals?

Also, would the 24 inch barrel give me better performance than the 20 inch barrel in either round?

Not too concerned about ammo cost, as I am already shooting .45LC pistols and will start reloading for them soon.

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Old March 15, 2006, 06:31 PM   #2
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Anything can kill a pig but they are tough and for my money nothing beats muzzle energy and bullet caliber when talking about hunting tough animals with pistol cartriges. Pick a rifle with a strong action for handloading higher pressure loads.

My Ruger bisley blackhawk with 300 gr XTPs at 1180 fps out of a 7.5" barrel packs a helluva wallop. Couldn't imagine using my 357 mag when I have that available. In a lever rifle that heavy load is not at all unpleasant to shoot.


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Old March 15, 2006, 06:49 PM   #3
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Old March 15, 2006, 09:03 PM   #4
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24" = better ballistics, 20" is handier, lighter, quicker-handling, does double duty better as "truck" and HD/SD gun. Whatever is your focus I'd go with and let the rest of it follow. If mostly hunting, the 24" might be the choice. But 20" should be fine for short range pig - and still does the CAS thing.
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Old March 16, 2006, 05:59 PM   #5
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The 45 should be the ticket. I've shot pigs with my 357, and they just run another 50 yds and do a dirt dance. The 45 has a bit more authority, should work well. Besides, I just like big bullets.
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Old March 16, 2006, 09:11 PM   #6
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according to my loading books the 45LC can push a 240 grain bullet up to 1532 fps and a 250 up to 1455 fps.. The 357 mag biggest bullet listed is a 180 grain 1422 fps....There is no contest ...Go with the 45LC if you have a ruger or T/C ....I load the 45LC for my friend while I shoot a ruger 44 mag...Either one will bruise my hands but the 45LC still hits harder....I am working on a hot load but have found I need a little protection...I am going to try a set ofgel padded kevlar gloves.....If you practice much, you are gonna need something to take the sting out that 45LC!!!
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Old March 17, 2006, 12:42 AM   #7
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The DoubleTap .45lc hot load is 335 grain hardcast at 1650fps. Yeah, it kicks a little.
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Old March 17, 2006, 05:41 AM   #8
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Sounds like the votes are in

for 45 longs. I was going to vote 357 until I read all the above threads and then went back and saw you were already shooting 45 long colts. I'd stick with the 45 and just shoot the heaviest load you can in the rifle... that's one more big hunk of lead you'll be throwing.
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