There is a trigger-finger-trainer, but where?

Para Bellum · July 10, 2005, 04:09 AM

In my IPSC-club we have a guy who ist so extremely fast with his trigger finger that there is only one solution to catch-up:

I need to repeatedly train my trigger finger for speed and power. A triger-finger-workout if you will. So, this can be done best while driving. I remember seeing something like a Glock-trigger-simulator, but I cant't find it. I could also use a cheap old revolver and repeatedly pull the trigger, but a more Glock-specific device would suit me better.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

AttackTurtle · July 10, 2005, 10:06 AM

Please be carefull not to overdo it Para...

Trigger Finger Syndrom

Para Bellum · July 10, 2005, 10:17 AM

AttackTurtle
thanks for the advice... scary

Para Bellum · July 11, 2005, 02:25 PM

...anyone? Pleeeeeeezzz.

big daddy 9mm · July 11, 2005, 02:31 PM

http://www.wisdomking.com/line85114.html

AAshooter · July 11, 2005, 02:38 PM

I know that some people simply use a ball point pen. By pressing the top, you can get a smooth trigger pull. Once it clicks, get a good trigger reset and second trigger pull.

BreacherUp! · July 11, 2005, 04:07 PM

PB, another trick taught to me was to use a rubber band. Strenthens the trigger finger while also "teaching" the finger to pull the trigger w/o bending the last joint. Worked great for me.

Limeyfellow · July 11, 2005, 07:46 PM

You could also use one of the finger strengtheners that musicians use to work the fingers.

The trigger finger syndrome is usually called repetitive strain syndrome. It can have some really bad effects but not everyone suffers from it badly, but I know one woman who suffered so much strain she had to have her hands put into casts to allow things to heal without moving.

big daddy 9mm · July 12, 2005, 01:22 AM

I play the soprano sax so this would be a concern but I have only heard of piano players getting fingers messed up by all the practice.I have been playing for almost 10 years now and so far no harm done.

CabinJohn · July 12, 2005, 09:30 AM

"So, this can be done best while driving. ...I could also use a cheap old revolver and repeatedly pull the trigger..."

Don't think you want to do that. Think about it - with all the "road rage" enforcement today, you may want to rehearse exactly what you will tell the Trooper when he pulls you over!

Frenchwrench · July 12, 2005, 03:27 PM

Gripmaster comes in three different levels of tension. www.gripmaster.net.
Bought the light and medium tensions for my son and it has dramatically raised his ability. Hope this helps.

Para Bellum · July 13, 2005, 01:41 PM

Thank you very much for your efforts. But I have seen a very specific thing on some Glock - Website. If only I knew where....

It simulates the glock trigger and does not look like a gun at all...

jonathon · July 13, 2005, 11:34 PM

I've seen drop in kits for the glock that automatically resets it without racking the slide. Looked cool but yeah.

I just dry fire..

mc_oliver · July 14, 2005, 04:36 AM

Fast is a relative word.

Anybody can pull the trigger fast with practice (lots of it). To shoot fast AND accurately, you'll need more than trigger finger excercise. How about asking him what he's done to get to his current skill level?

Para Bellum · July 14, 2005, 06:41 AM

Mc_Oliver
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o shoot fast AND accurately, you'll need more than trigger finger excercise. How about asking him what he's done to get to his current skill level?

very helpful indeed.

Para Bellum · July 15, 2005, 04:38 PM

Thats what I meant and this is where I found it:

is that thing any good?

Quote:

Gripmaster comes in three different levels of tension. www.gripmaster.net.
Bought the light and medium tensions for my son and it has dramatically raised his ability. Hope this helps

Thanks, I'll try that!

HighValleyRanch · July 15, 2005, 08:21 PM

I once had a guy come to study martial arts so that he could improve his golf game.....He should have stayed with his gold, because he sucked at the martial arts. Lesson?
Cross training has its benefits, but training should be sport or goal specific.

Training your trigger finger while driving is a bad idea. Sure you have time, and I used to practice some of my moves while driving, but Better to work on your visualization of proper techniques first.

I think that you would be better off just practicing the trigger pulls on your glock in specific training sessions, whether it be dry firing or live firing.

Been practicing that myself, a quick pull through, controlled jerk or condensed surprise release, whatever you want to call it. First by dry fire only, then out to the range without a target, then on a blank target and then finally on a specific target. Step by step is the best way to learn anything. speed will come by itself, but smooth ans steady is the way.

HighValleyRanch · July 15, 2005, 08:53 PM

quote:In my IPSC-club we have a guy who ist so extremely fast with his trigger finger that there is only one solution to catch-up:

I really doubt that the speed of trigger comes into play as much as other things. Are you talking about overcoming the weight of the trigger pull, the actual speed of the pull?
Sight alignment, speed of recovery, recoil control all make more difference that the actual speed of trigger pull. On top of that, when you learn to just let the trigger out to the reset point, there is not that much movement in the actual break. Preset your hold to 3 pounds and the actual break then only comes down to 2 pound (increase in pressure).
If you are having a hard time pulling 5 pounds trigger pull, it might be all in your mind as well. A condition well know to experience bullseye shooters as chicken finger. In that case, even a free pistol trigger can feel like 10 pounds! It's mostly in the mind.
Check and see if the guy is fast(translate that to smooooth) inbetween all the shots as well.....

July 10, 2005, 04:09 AM	#1
Para Bellum Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2005 Location: right there Posts: 1,882	There is a trigger-finger-trainer, but where? In my IPSC-club we have a guy who ist so extremely fast with his trigger finger that there is only one solution to catch-up: I need to repeatedly train my trigger finger for speed and power. A triger-finger-workout if you will. So, this can be done best while driving. I remember seeing something like a Glock-trigger-simulator, but I cant't find it. I could also use a cheap old revolver and repeatedly pull the trigger, but a more Glock-specific device would suit me better. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. __________________ Si vis pacem - para bellum If you want peace - prepare for war

July 10, 2005, 10:06 AM	#2
AttackTurtle Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2005 Location: Washington NJ Posts: 248	Please be carefull not to overdo it Para... Trigger Finger Syndrom __________________ RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET

July 10, 2005, 10:17 AM	#3
Para Bellum Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2005 Location: right there Posts: 1,882	AttackTurtle thanks for the advice... scary __________________ Si vis pacem - para bellum If you want peace - prepare for war

July 11, 2005, 02:25 PM	#4
Para Bellum Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2005 Location: right there Posts: 1,882	Come on guys, I know it's out there... ...anyone? Pleeeeeeezzz. __________________ Si vis pacem - para bellum If you want peace - prepare for war

July 11, 2005, 02:31 PM	#5
big daddy 9mm Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2005 Posts: 451	is this what you are thinking of.... http://www.wisdomking.com/line85114.html

July 11, 2005, 02:38 PM	#6
AAshooter Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2001 Posts: 379	I know that some people simply use a ball point pen. By pressing the top, you can get a smooth trigger pull. Once it clicks, get a good trigger reset and second trigger pull. __________________ Play hard, shoot often, leave well worn guns!

July 11, 2005, 04:07 PM	#7
BreacherUp! Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2005 Posts: 566	PB, another trick taught to me was to use a rubber band. Strenthens the trigger finger while also "teaching" the finger to pull the trigger w/o bending the last joint. Worked great for me. __________________ Life's tough. But it's tougher when you're stupid.

July 11, 2005, 07:46 PM	#8
Limeyfellow Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2005 Posts: 1,380	You could also use one of the finger strengtheners that musicians use to work the fingers. The trigger finger syndrome is usually called repetitive strain syndrome. It can have some really bad effects but not everyone suffers from it badly, but I know one woman who suffered so much strain she had to have her hands put into casts to allow things to heal without moving.

July 12, 2005, 01:22 AM	#9
big daddy 9mm Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2005 Posts: 451	I am interested my this finger condition I play the soprano sax so this would be a concern but I have only heard of piano players getting fingers messed up by all the practice.I have been playing for almost 10 years now and so far no harm done.

July 12, 2005, 09:30 AM	#10
CabinJohn Member Join Date: July 5, 2005 Location: NW Mass Posts: 61	NOT while driving... "So, this can be done best while driving. ...I could also use a cheap old revolver and repeatedly pull the trigger..." Don't think you want to do that. Think about it - with all the "road rage" enforcement today, you may want to rehearse exactly what you will tell the Trooper when he pulls you over!

July 12, 2005, 03:27 PM	#11
Frenchwrench Member Join Date: January 19, 2005 Location: Indiana but my land is in Colorado Posts: 80	Gripmaster comes in three different levels of tension. www.gripmaster.net. Bought the light and medium tensions for my son and it has dramatically raised his ability. Hope this helps.

July 13, 2005, 01:41 PM	#12
Para Bellum Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2005 Location: right there Posts: 1,882	It simulates the glock trigger and does not look like a gun at all... Thank you very much for your efforts. But I have seen a very specific thing on some Glock - Website. If only I knew where.... It simulates the glock trigger and does not look like a gun at all... __________________ Si vis pacem - para bellum If you want peace - prepare for war

July 13, 2005, 11:34 PM	#13
jonathon Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2005 Location: Washougal, Washington. YEHAW! Posts: 1,872	I've seen drop in kits for the glock that automatically resets it without racking the slide. Looked cool but yeah. I just dry fire.. __________________ Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good More CZ M52 info than you can shake a stick at!

July 14, 2005, 04:36 AM	#14
mc_oliver Member Join Date: May 30, 2002 Location: Philippines Posts: 35	Fast is a relative word. Anybody can pull the trigger fast with practice (lots of it). To shoot fast AND accurately, you'll need more than trigger finger excercise. How about asking him what he's done to get to his current skill level?

July 15, 2005, 08:21 PM	#17
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	Practice what you do, not something like it I once had a guy come to study martial arts so that he could improve his golf game.....He should have stayed with his gold, because he sucked at the martial arts. Lesson? Cross training has its benefits, but training should be sport or goal specific. Training your trigger finger while driving is a bad idea. Sure you have time, and I used to practice some of my moves while driving, but Better to work on your visualization of proper techniques first. I think that you would be better off just practicing the trigger pulls on your glock in specific training sessions, whether it be dry firing or live firing. Been practicing that myself, a quick pull through, controlled jerk or condensed surprise release, whatever you want to call it. First by dry fire only, then out to the range without a target, then on a blank target and then finally on a specific target. Step by step is the best way to learn anything. speed will come by itself, but smooth ans steady is the way.

July 15, 2005, 08:53 PM	#18
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	Do you really need a speedy trigger? quote:In my IPSC-club we have a guy who ist so extremely fast with his trigger finger that there is only one solution to catch-up: I really doubt that the speed of trigger comes into play as much as other things. Are you talking about overcoming the weight of the trigger pull, the actual speed of the pull? Sight alignment, speed of recovery, recoil control all make more difference that the actual speed of trigger pull. On top of that, when you learn to just let the trigger out to the reset point, there is not that much movement in the actual break. Preset your hold to 3 pounds and the actual break then only comes down to 2 pound (increase in pressure). If you are having a hard time pulling 5 pounds trigger pull, it might be all in your mind as well. A condition well know to experience bullseye shooters as chicken finger. In that case, even a free pistol trigger can feel like 10 pounds! It's mostly in the mind. Check and see if the guy is fast(translate that to smooooth) inbetween all the shots as well.....