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Old May 12, 2005, 05:49 PM   #1
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Your thoughtful attention to the following is urged

America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

May 10, 2005


On Tuesday, May 10, 2005, America became a true police
state. Your U.S. senators voted -- unanimously, with no
discussion, and without even reading the bill -- to create
a national ID card.

The Real ID Act blackmails state governments into turning
their drivers licenses into a draconian tool of the federal
homeland security apparatus. If states refuse, their
citizens lose such "privileges" as being allowed to board
an airplane, enter a federal building, or apply for social
security. President Bush is expected to sign the bill
eagerly on Thursday.

In three years -- by May 2008 -- this Stalin-style internal
passport will be an American reality. But your government
will have _more_ control over you than Stalin ever dreamed
in his most violent, vicious, anti-freedom dreams. (See
links to the text of the law and articles about it at the
bottom of this article.)

But that's only the beginning.

The creator of the Real ID Act, Rep. James Sensenbrenner,
smiles and tells us that his Real ID Act is all about
"solving illegal immigration" or "preventing terrorists
from entering the country." This is one of the biggest of
the thousands of "Big Lies" we've heard from the tyrants in
Washington. The Real ID Act is about tracking and
controlling Americans. You. Me. Our children. Everybody.

In May 2008, barring a miracle, America as we once knew it
will be in ruins. It will be gone. And the rights of gun
owners will be among the first scheduled for destruction.


Here's your future:

* You walk into a gun store, fill out your 4473, and show
your government ID just as you now do. But instead of
looking at your license and taking down some information,
the clerk runs the license (which is likely to contain a
radio-frequency ID chip) through a scanner. Your purchase
is instantly recorded in your _state_ drivers license
registry. The federal government isn't currently allowed to
keep a gun registry. But no problem; the Real ID act gives
them an open door into your state records.

* Complete information on every firearm you buy will be
instantly available to every police officer (and possibly
every government employee, store clerk, or computer hacker)
you ever encounter. You'll be an instant criminal suspect
every time you deal with someone who has access to the

* Just as travelers are encouraged to get background checks
and give fingerprints to avoid some of the worst excesses
of TSA screening, gun owners will be encouraged to get
background checks and give whatever biometric ID the
Department of Homeland Security requires. This will be sold
as a "benefit," ensuring you'll never again experience an
"instant-check" delay. In fact, Congress, the ATF, or the
FBI might even "mandate" 5-day or 15-day delays for anyone
not enrolled in the "Trusted Firearms Buyer" program.

* The private purchase "loophole" will be closed, so that
all gun buyers must make trackable purchases. (The ultimate
goal is for _every_ purchase of every kind to be

* Buying ammo? The store scans your national ID card and --
bingo! -- your purchase is registered in the state

* The federal government or state governments can now also
_effectively_ legislate limits on the amount or kind of
ammunition you're "allowed" to purchase. Try to buy more
and the database instantly rejects you.

* The federal government or state governments can now also
_effectively_ legislate limits on the number of guns you
may own. Try to buy more, and the database rejects you.

* Eventually -- after the federal government "discovers"
the obvious, that national ID won't stop either illegal
immigration or terrorism -- the old attack on "evil guns"
will resume. When they want your .50 BMG they'll know just
where to find it (because the Real ID act says your home
address _must_ be revealed). When they want your evil
"scoped sniper rifle" (you know, the one you hunt deer
with), they'll know just how to get it. Ditto with you
"Saturday Night Special" or your "assault weapon."

* If you don't surrender your guns, well, then the
Department of Homeland Security will cut off your driving
"privilege," as well as your right to escape the growing
police state via plane. You'll be a prisoner in your own
home, in your own country. Or you'll be forced to function
as an outlaw, operating and living a precarious existence
beneath the government radar.


You say these projections are ridiculous? That we're

Well, frankly, if the Real ID Act doesn't make you
paranoid, you're not paying enough attention. We ask you to
consider the long-term impact of a few other acts of

In the 1930s, Congress promised us that our social security
numbers would never, absolutely never, be used for
identification. Now, they're the key to everything about us
-- and without a social security number you won't get a
drivers license and you won't even be "allowed" to drive
after May 2008.

In 1913, Congress and the media swore to us that the brand-
new income tax would only affect the rich. Well, how rich
do you feel after paying 40 percent of your income (or
more!) in taxes?

This is the way government works. They've even got a term
for it: mission creep. And there is no creepier mission
than the mission the federal government has currently set
itself: to track everyone, everywhere, and to control what
we do.

We warned you in _The State vs. the People_
( that this was coming. That
book is still relevant, still a good read, and still filled
with information about what our future will be like in this
new American police state.

Be forewarned. Be aware.


Please take a moment to go to this site: Click on the link
that leads to the song "Justice Day." Listen to the music
or read the lyrics. Here's the opening of the song:

You're the boot.
Stomping on the human face forever.
You're the eye.
Staring down on everyone and ever seeing all.
You're the lie.
Twisting all our minds into your whoredom.
You are Death.
You are war.
You are slavery.
You're the law.
You're the law.
You're the LAW!

George Orwell was the first to describe totalitarianism as
a "boot stomping on the human face forever." But in
Orwell's day Americans would have had a hard time believing
that the law -- the good old, all-American legislature --
all those smiling senators and "representatives" would be
the ones to plant their iron heels in our faces. Back in
those innocent days, we imagined tyranny would come from

Well, tyranny is here. And it's a gift from the very people
we so trustingly put into office.

End of part 1, see part 2 of your thoughtful attention to the following is urged
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Old May 12, 2005, 05:51 PM   #2
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part 2, your thoughtful attention to the following is urged

Tyranny is THE LAW.

Is this a way to run a country? Tacking something as
onerous as national ID onto a must-pass bill and making it
law without any debate? What does this say about people the
gun owners consider their friends? In the House, where the
bill containing the Real ID Act passed 368-58, only three
Republicans voted against it. Here's the final roll-call
vote so you can see how your own congressperson voted:
bin/vote.asp?year=2005&rollnumber=161#N (or )

In the Senate, not one person cared enough about freedom to
vote against it -- or even to demand that senators
_discuss_ it.

(The Real ID Act originally passed the House in February as
a standalone bill (H.R. 418) by a vote of 261-to-161. House
leaders, realizing national ID would have been in trouble
in the Senate, then added it to a must-pass military
appropriations bill in a cynical ploy to make it almost
impossible to fight national ID.)

Turning America into a full-fledged police state was just
business as usual to your representatives. And, just as
Adolf Hitler scrupulously followed German law while
committing his horrors, so your "representatives" and the
bureaucrats you face at the national-ID drivers license
bureau will also be following the law -- the Real ID law
that allows them to enslave you.

(To see what a real Bill of Rights leader would do, read
the novel _Hope_ by Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith:


We have two choices now: Resist or submit.

More than 600 organizations, from the American Civil
Liberties Union to the National Governors Association,
opposed the bill. Even the American Association of Motor
Vehicle Administrators (which loves national ID and was
largely responsible for an earlier attempt at such
legislation nine years ago) criticized it.

We can expect lawsuits against national ID, including at
least one suit led by state governments.

However, nearly all the opposition from state governments
focuses on one area: They're upset because the federal
government didn't offer them extra money to enslave us. If
Congress bribes them with enough millions and billions,
they'll gladly sell our freedom.

Only one state, Montana, has so far absolutely refused to
cooperate with national ID. The Montana legislature passed
a law saying they would not go along. However, that will
mean that Montana residents are barred from flying without
extreme extra scrutiny or from applying for federal
benefits because their licenses will be "non-compliant."
Although we applaud the courageous Montana legislators, no
doubt we'll soon hear many Montanans demanding the
"privilege" of having a real national ID card.

Ultimately, real resistance is up to us, as individuals.
There are certain courses of action JPFO cannot recommend.
But every freedom lover should be pleased if all the people
who had a hand in creating Real ID act lost their jobs --
soon. And those individuals who truly value their (and
their children's) futures should seriously consider making
national ID their line in the sand.

We have already heard from many people saying they will
drive without a license rather than submit to a license
that has become a Stalinist control document. We just hope
their resolve stays equally strong when they face a world
in which it's impossible to buy, sell, retire, travel -- or
buy a gun -- without national ID.

We ask you to remember men like Alexandr Solzhenitzyn
yn-autobio.html or ) and Natan Sharansky
ansky.html or ). Both stood up and boldly
opposed a tyrannical regime in the Soviet Union. Both
risked their lives. Both suffered horribly for their
resistance and their protests. But eventually, they
triumphed -- and the Soviet Union crumbled.

We are in need of such people, and such courage, today. We
cannot wait for _someone else_ to stand up and show that
kind of integrity.

We must become the kind of people we admire if we are ever
again to live in a nation we can trust.

G-d help us if we fail.*

- The Liberty Crew


Text of the law:
bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00418: or

"No Real Debate for Real ID",...1,00.html?tw=w
n_tophead_1 or

"Last Chance to Stop National ID" (written before
Senate passage)

* We spell G-d this way because in Judaism it is considered
a sign of respect. We spell out the name of the Creator
only in sacred settings.


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Old May 12, 2005, 06:05 PM   #3
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It is sad that Americans are willing to give up so much all in the name of stopping illegal immigration... I have a great idea... If we want to stop illegal immigration, why don't we DO IT AT THE BORDERS?
BOUNTY HUNTER: Any man who skips out on his bail can be hunted like an animal, although not eaten. All you gotta do is sit through a four-hour training course.

DALE GRIBBLE: You're telling me there's a poorly-trained, quasi-legal police force that operates with few, if any, government controls? IT'S ABOUT TIME!
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Old May 12, 2005, 10:18 PM   #4
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univtxattorney, and or anyone else interested:

Re your comments, I have a couple of questions of my own.

1. Why in blazes don't the relevant federal agencies, re immigratioin and border control, DO THE JOBS THEY ARE PAID TO DO??

2. If, as is has been claimed, political types block such action, how come the political types haven't been run the hell out of office, and or hung??
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Old May 12, 2005, 10:48 PM   #5
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If we want to stop illegal immigration, why don't we DO IT AT THE BORDERS?
It is quite obvious that the "powers that be" do NOT want to stop illegal immigration. How much more obvious could they make it? They would in fact just have an open border if, but they know they can't get away with it (yet).

What was that "guest worker" thing Bush was talking about? Drivers licenses for illegals? What was NAFTA? Those guys want, and are getting, one big United States of North America, with Mexico included. You've got to understand, these guys with the REAL power are not Americans: they're GLOBALISTS. They laugh at hicks like you and me who still believe in such things as national soverignty.

But no, the republicrats will keep pairing off two distaseful candidates every election, just like it was professional wrestling, with a good guy and a bad guy, and everyone will root for their favorite, blissfully unaware that the fix was in from the beginning, and, like sheep, we will continue to be sheared.
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