Why pistol grips?

notbubba · December 1, 2002, 03:17 AM

Other than ruining the looks of a shotgun do pistol grips accomplish anything?

Is there an advantage to them?

sm · December 1, 2002, 04:20 AM

Some situations warrant, some specify (policy) like for use in armored car (notice the ports).
shorter overall length, concealable (again certain applications)
Don't like them either, just have some folks policy requires/so we teach.

LF&Co. MG · December 1, 2002, 07:16 AM

As mentioned above, it is more portable in close quarters like driver's compartments on armored trucks and can get out the gunports without hitting the steering wheel or other components. In the cargo area, portability is not a problem.

Kilroy · December 1, 2002, 10:21 AM

Two very good ones....

...they make money for the manufacturer and the retailer that sold them.

Kilroy...
...was here

Dave McC · December 1, 2002, 10:23 AM

No advantage, some drawbacks. Another case of The Cool Factor....

C.R.Sam · December 1, 2002, 10:51 AM

And...
A way to get non shotgunners to buy a shotgun;
Hence, more sales.
Bucks.

Sam

Ewok_Guy · December 1, 2002, 12:38 PM

You talking about pistol grips with stocks or pistol grips only?

gordo b. · December 1, 2002, 12:48 PM

I have 3 gun match 870 and 1100 set up with choate pistol grip shoulder stocks so they handle like AR15 or FNFAL OR HK91, I dont "like them" though.

notbubba · December 1, 2002, 04:43 PM

I'm asking about pistol grip stock as seen in "Let's see those SG's", not pistol grip only.

I can think of no advantages to a stock with a pistol grip.

I can see one small advantage to pistol grip only, that of shorter overall length.

Dave McC · December 1, 2002, 05:49 PM

Notbubba,until we develop a hinge in our forearms, the much vaunted shorter length of a PG only shotgun matters little.

I've a standing challenge to a shootout with the PG only folks, after a year there's been no takers.Shoulder fired shotguns are deadly, the PG jobs much less so.

As for full stocks w/ PGs, I've seen no advantage nor disadvantage to them. The standard stock works for me quite well.

kotengu · December 2, 2002, 09:34 AM

For me, it's much easier to hold the shotgun on target with the right hand only while I reload with the left with the pistol-gripped full stock. Between that and being similar in feel to the FAL I usually shoot a pistol grip (only with full stock) is for me.

Robby from Long Island · December 4, 2002, 08:06 PM

I bought my M1 Super 90 Tactical in the pre-ban days. It has an 18 1/2" barrel with ghost ring sights and a pistol grip as well as the shoulder stock and holds total of 8 rounds.

Whether it was the "COOL" look that prompted me to go that route or not, have never had the slightest trouble adjusting to the grip that I feel comfortable with. I do feel I can pull it into me tighter with the pistol grip than without, but that's just my opinion.

As I also have a pre-ban Colt Sporter Match HBAR that obviously has a pistol grip, maybe that's why the M1 Super 90 seems natural to me.

Safe shooting.

Redlg155 · December 4, 2002, 10:41 PM

Pistol grip shotguns?..No thanks. The things just hurt to shoot.

As for full stocks with a pistol grip? No thanks to those either. If anything they increase the felt recoil for me due my tendency to push a bit forward in hoping to soak up the recoil with the pistol grip. I end up worse off.

I'll stick to standard stocks.

Good Shooting
Red

V-fib · December 5, 2002, 02:20 AM

Been there done that.

Went back to the stock that came with the sg. Much easier to control and aim.

Also, I didn't want to have to register it as a handgun.

Have to admit they do look cool.

December 1, 2002, 03:17 AM	#1
notbubba Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2001 Location: Jackson Michigan Posts: 790	Why pistol grips? Other than ruining the looks of a shotgun do pistol grips accomplish anything? Is there an advantage to them? __________________ www.mcrgo.org Michigan Coalition For Responsible Gun Owners

December 1, 2002, 04:20 AM	#2
sm Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2002 Posts: 1,819	Some situations warrant, some specify (policy) like for use in armored car (notice the ports). shorter overall length, concealable (again certain applications) Don't like them either, just have some folks policy requires/so we teach. __________________ Use Enough Gun TFL Alumni

December 1, 2002, 07:16 AM	#3
LF&Co. MG Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2002 Location: Lenoir City TN. Posts: 105	As mentioned above, it is more portable in close quarters like driver's compartments on armored trucks and can get out the gunports without hitting the steering wheel or other components. In the cargo area, portability is not a problem. __________________ "This was the great abiding lesson of my boyhood, that I was in a world where it was not possible for me to be good" George Orwell

December 1, 2002, 12:38 PM	#7
Ewok_Guy Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2001 Location: Endor Posts: 1,664	You talking about pistol grips with stocks or pistol grips only? __________________ "Death and honor are thought to be the same, but today I have learned that sometimes they are not." --------------------- " I like big fat men like you. When they fall they make more noise! ...and sometimes they never get up." -Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

December 1, 2002, 04:43 PM	#9
notbubba Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2001 Location: Jackson Michigan Posts: 790	I'm asking about pistol grip stock as seen in "Let's see those SG's", not pistol grip only. I can think of no advantages to a stock with a pistol grip. I can see one small advantage to pistol grip only, that of shorter overall length. __________________ www.mcrgo.org Michigan Coalition For Responsible Gun Owners

December 1, 2002, 10:21 AM	#4
Kilroy Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 1998 Posts: 117	Two very good ones.... ...they make money for the manufacturer and the retailer that sold them. Kilroy... ...was here

December 1, 2002, 10:23 AM	#5
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	No advantage, some drawbacks. Another case of The Cool Factor....

December 1, 2002, 10:51 AM	#6
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	And... A way to get non shotgunners to buy a shotgun; Hence, more sales. Bucks. Sam

December 1, 2002, 12:48 PM	#8
gordo b. Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2002 Location: Peoples republik of Calif. Posts: 961	I have 3 gun match 870 and 1100 set up with choate pistol grip shoulder stocks so they handle like AR15 or FNFAL OR HK91, I dont "like them" though.

December 1, 2002, 05:49 PM	#10
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Notbubba,until we develop a hinge in our forearms, the much vaunted shorter length of a PG only shotgun matters little. I've a standing challenge to a shootout with the PG only folks, after a year there's been no takers.Shoulder fired shotguns are deadly, the PG jobs much less so. As for full stocks w/ PGs, I've seen no advantage nor disadvantage to them. The standard stock works for me quite well.

December 2, 2002, 09:34 AM	#11
kotengu Member Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 71	For me, it's much easier to hold the shotgun on target with the right hand only while I reload with the left with the pistol-gripped full stock. Between that and being similar in feel to the FAL I usually shoot a pistol grip (only with full stock) is for me. __________________ "The way is in training" - Miyamoto Musashi

December 4, 2002, 08:06 PM	#12
Robby from Long Island Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2001 Location: North Babylon, N.Y. Posts: 157	I bought my M1 Super 90 Tactical in the pre-ban days. It has an 18 1/2" barrel with ghost ring sights and a pistol grip as well as the shoulder stock and holds total of 8 rounds. Whether it was the "COOL" look that prompted me to go that route or not, have never had the slightest trouble adjusting to the grip that I feel comfortable with. I do feel I can pull it into me tighter with the pistol grip than without, but that's just my opinion. As I also have a pre-ban Colt Sporter Match HBAR that obviously has a pistol grip, maybe that's why the M1 Super 90 seems natural to me. Safe shooting. __________________ Robby

December 4, 2002, 10:41 PM	#13
Redlg155 Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: NW Florida Posts: 2,307	Pistol grip shotguns?..No thanks. The things just hurt to shoot. As for full stocks with a pistol grip? No thanks to those either. If anything they increase the felt recoil for me due my tendency to push a bit forward in hoping to soak up the recoil with the pistol grip. I end up worse off. I'll stick to standard stocks. Good Shooting Red

December 5, 2002, 02:20 AM	#14
V-fib Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 253	Been there done that. Went back to the stock that came with the sg. Much easier to control and aim. Also, I didn't want to have to register it as a handgun. Have to admit they do look cool. __________________ Livin in the woods...feelin mighty good.