Use of linotype lead for shotgunning?

Big Bunny · November 11, 2000, 03:56 AM

Anyone have any info on making home-made shot from linotype to close up patterns...not unlike a US "turkey load"?

I have my eye on a Shotmaker(electric) and I have heaps of linotype lead in the shed.

I worry about pressures a bit.

[Incedentially 1OZ 12Ga Slugs made of linotype and patched-no choke-with 800X loads at published 1,400FPS-18" barrel- go through x4 wet local 2" telephone books and are only polished up a bit!!]

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DaMan · November 11, 2000, 09:11 AM

Big Bunny, linotype is generally about 84% lead, 4% tin, and 12% antimony. This would make some VERY HARD shot (BHN 22)! Magnum shot runs from about 3-6% antimony, which translates to about 9-11 on the Brinell scale.

Plain old wheel weights have 4% antimony and produce shot of 9 BHN.

I have my reservations about these little electric shotmakers. They produce very crude shot of varying sizes and roundness. However, if the price of shot keeps going up around here, I may buy one of these little gizmos for practice loads and "brush/spreader" loads.

Regards! DaMan

Big Bunny · November 12, 2000, 05:48 PM

Thanks for your reply DaMan.
As ever - good advice.
I will hold off on purchase, as the project looks like a lemon.

Can't beat the ol'Linotype 1Oz patched slug for penetration though!!!

BB

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If we shooting sportspersons don't hang together... we will all hang separately !
Never knock another's different shooting interest or discipline...REMEMBER we are all but leaves on the same tree of freedom.

Big Bunny · November 12, 2000, 08:21 PM

OK an update.......It now appears that the range salvaged lead will NOT be linotype, as many pistol bullets(including police practice ammo) is well below this standard.

I now aim to simply melt and cast ingots of cleaned lead and then get it tested for hardness somewhere- before going on with the project.

Also the nozzles in the shotmaker can become blocked, unless clean lead is used- apparently.

Spoke to a local ex-farmer this morning. As a child he made farm shotgun shot with a blow-torch and a steel funnel with holes ball-pened in it on his dairy roof. The lead went down the corrugated steel roof and then plopped into a bucket of water with a bit of oil on top!
Amazing what you can do in shortages.
I asked him what SHOT SIZES he made by this home-made process.
The reply was a cheerful "ALL SIZES"

BB

Dave McC · November 16, 2000, 06:49 AM

BB, I recall a friend who used to make some shot with a piece of screening and a bucket of water. He stood on a step ladder to pour.

'Nother friend cast his own slugs, for reasons of hairy chested self sufficiency only as near as I could tell.

Intel6 · November 17, 2000, 07:57 AM

I have used one fo those Littleton shot makers before and it wasn't too bad. The shot that it makes was all about the same size (about 71/2 size) but allot of the pellets were teardrop shaped. I was using the shot for shooting steel so I wasn't too concerned about longer range patterning. It loaded and shot fine and since it was just getting vaporized on steel it didn't make much difference. I just use real shot for hunting or sporting purpose loads.
I would consider getting one of the shot makers but I consider them too expensive for what you are getting. I have considerd trying to make my own, since they are not too complicated.

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November 11, 2000, 03:56 AM	#1
Big Bunny Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 1999 Location: New South Wales - Australia Posts: 605	Anyone have any info on making home-made shot from linotype to close up patterns...not unlike a US "turkey load"? I have my eye on a Shotmaker(electric) and I have heaps of linotype lead in the shed. I worry about pressures a bit. [Incedentially 1OZ 12Ga Slugs made of linotype and patched-no choke-with 800X loads at published 1,400FPS-18" barrel- go through x4 wet local 2" telephone books and are only polished up a bit!!] ------------------ If we shooting sportspersons don't hang together... we will all hang separately ! Never knock another's different shooting interest or discipline...REMEMBER we are all but leaves on the same tree of freedom.

November 11, 2000, 09:11 AM	#2
DaMan Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2000 Posts: 222	Big Bunny, linotype is generally about 84% lead, 4% tin, and 12% antimony. This would make some VERY HARD shot (BHN 22)! Magnum shot runs from about 3-6% antimony, which translates to about 9-11 on the Brinell scale. Plain old wheel weights have 4% antimony and produce shot of 9 BHN. I have my reservations about these little electric shotmakers. They produce very crude shot of varying sizes and roundness. However, if the price of shot keeps going up around here, I may buy one of these little gizmos for practice loads and "brush/spreader" loads. Regards! DaMan

November 12, 2000, 05:48 PM	#3
Big Bunny Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 1999 Location: New South Wales - Australia Posts: 605	Thanks for your reply DaMan. As ever - good advice. I will hold off on purchase, as the project looks like a lemon. Can't beat the ol'Linotype 1Oz patched slug for penetration though!!! BB ------------------ If we shooting sportspersons don't hang together... we will all hang separately ! Never knock another's different shooting interest or discipline...REMEMBER we are all but leaves on the same tree of freedom.

November 12, 2000, 08:21 PM	#4
Big Bunny Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 1999 Location: New South Wales - Australia Posts: 605	OK an update.......It now appears that the range salvaged lead will NOT be linotype, as many pistol bullets(including police practice ammo) is well below this standard. I now aim to simply melt and cast ingots of cleaned lead and then get it tested for hardness somewhere- before going on with the project. Also the nozzles in the shotmaker can become blocked, unless clean lead is used- apparently. Spoke to a local ex-farmer this morning. As a child he made farm shotgun shot with a blow-torch and a steel funnel with holes ball-pened in it on his dairy roof. The lead went down the corrugated steel roof and then plopped into a bucket of water with a bit of oil on top! Amazing what you can do in shortages. I asked him what SHOT SIZES he made by this home-made process. The reply was a cheerful "ALL SIZES" BB

November 16, 2000, 06:49 AM	#5
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	BB, I recall a friend who used to make some shot with a piece of screening and a bucket of water. He stood on a step ladder to pour. 'Nother friend cast his own slugs, for reasons of hairy chested self sufficiency only as near as I could tell.

November 17, 2000, 07:57 AM	#6
Intel6 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2000 Posts: 425	I have used one fo those Littleton shot makers before and it wasn't too bad. The shot that it makes was all about the same size (about 71/2 size) but allot of the pellets were teardrop shaped. I was using the shot for shooting steel so I wasn't too concerned about longer range patterning. It loaded and shot fine and since it was just getting vaporized on steel it didn't make much difference. I just use real shot for hunting or sporting purpose loads. I would consider getting one of the shot makers but I consider them too expensive for what you are getting. I have considerd trying to make my own, since they are not too complicated.