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Old April 30, 2002, 01:42 PM   #1
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Death of Simo Hayha (Finnish Sniper)

A Finnish acquaintence shared the sad news that famous Russo-Finnish war sniper, Simo Hayha, passed away last month. Hayha earned his fame during the Winter War where he used his iron sighted Mosin Nagant to kill over 500 Russians. In a duel matching the intensity of the famous Hathcock-NVA sniper, Hayha was able to dispatch his scoped equipped opponent using only iron sights.

Check out the book, Rifles of White Death. Unfortunately, Hayha's memoirs, White Death, has not been translated to English. Guess we have to learn Finn (or is it Lapp?).

For a Finnish link, go to: http://guns.connect.fi/gow/hayha.html

and: http://w3.verkkouutiset.fi/arkisto/A...uu/HIT4298.HTM
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Old April 30, 2002, 02:47 PM   #2
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Go to: http://www.translation.langenberg.com/ and try their sites that translate web pages. There is one that translates from Finnish.

I tried today but the site was too busy. I'll try again tonight late.
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Old April 30, 2002, 06:48 PM   #3
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Sad, but I think he was in his 90s. And if you can say about anyone that he outlived his enemies...
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using only iron sights
I believe that was by choice, not because he had to. Some didn't (or don't) trust scopes in extreme conditions, and some of the battles in that war were fought in temperatures below minus 50 Celsius. Also, I think I saw an interview with this guy where he said that he could get lower on the stock without a scope, exposing less target area to the enemy.
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Old April 30, 2002, 09:49 PM   #4
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Ma puhun suomea.....


He was the man. When I was in Finland for a couple years they would occassionaly have stories in the paper about this guy.
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Old April 30, 2002, 10:36 PM   #5
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About the scopes vs. iron sights issue. 20/20 vision is an arbritary value defined as normal by the medical community. A person who has 20/10 vision can resolve at 200 yds what a person with 20/20 can resolve at 100 yds. There are a few people with vision more acute than 20/10. He might have been one of them.

Until my late 20's I had 20/10 vision now it's a littel worse than 20/20 but my opthamologist says I don't need corrective lenses.
I feel half blind.
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Old May 1, 2002, 01:37 AM   #6
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I've got (or used to) have 20/10 - even sniffed around at becoming a sniper when I was a teen. Unfortunately I had a degenerative cartilage condition that made that an impossibility.

I still have very good long range vision - I can read road signs clearly three or four times the length of most people.

Am I a better shot? Nope, but damn if I can't see what I'm missing!
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Old January 14, 2006, 04:08 PM   #7
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I am from Finland,Minä puhun suomea.Simo Häyhä did shoot his all fires with iron sight,even tought there was available Russian scope rifles.UltimaThule guess (or know) right,death would be come in few centimeters,and mayby he trust more in iron sight.Häyhä get command to kill Russian sniper, then he did go to woods,then he did wait many hours until the sniper did make mistake and Häyhä shoot it from 450meter far away,slowly he start to crawl out of the battle area,soon enemys "fast cannons" shoot the place where he just have been. He did use some his own tricks example he freeze snow that it didn´t puff when shoot.I hope you understand my english.And he did live at least 93 yers old,i think.
http://www.snipercentral.com/snipers.htm <theres is list of best snipers.
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Old January 14, 2006, 04:59 PM   #8
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There are a few people with vision more acute than 20/10. He might have been one of them.
Ted williams comes to mind

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Old January 14, 2006, 07:03 PM   #9
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Old January 14, 2006, 08:07 PM   #10
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Old January 15, 2006, 01:08 AM   #11
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20/8 vision in left eye, 20/20 in right. Problem is though, I am obviously left eyed dominant and right handed.
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Old January 15, 2006, 08:31 AM   #12
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Thank you MeekAndMild.
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Old January 15, 2006, 08:33 AM   #13
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Old January 15, 2006, 08:54 AM   #14
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Thanks sensop,here is lot of information of Winter War > http://www.winterwar.com/
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Old January 21, 2006, 02:58 PM   #15
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He averaged over five kills a day.

FWIW, a large number of those kills were with a submachine gun.
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Old January 21, 2006, 09:06 PM   #16
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He averaged over five kills a day.
You think he finished any of that up with a cold Sinebrychoff ??
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Old January 22, 2006, 02:26 PM   #17
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20/8 vision in left eye, 20/20 in right. Problem is though, I am obviously left eyed dominant and right handed.
So it one of the local Sheriff's dept. snipers -- doesn't stop him from being pretty good with a rifle.
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Old February 4, 2006, 02:53 PM   #18
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pickpocket, how do you know Sinebrychoff?
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Old February 10, 2006, 06:39 PM   #19
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I read the article. It was jibberish to me.
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Old February 10, 2006, 11:49 PM   #20
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I'm not sure most folks realize just how big a difference there is between 20/20 and, say, 20/5. I had 20/15 for much of my life. Pretty good eye site by most measures. I knew one person with 20/5. Amazing. For example she read the size label on a worn out pair of Levis by seeing the indentation made when the size was stamped. I understand Ted Williams could see the rotation of the ball as it left the pitchers hand.

Now I'm jealous of anyone who doesn't have to wear reading glasses. (And I use progressive lenses so I don't have to put the off and on all the time)
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