one milsurp for hunting all north america - Page 3

aarondhgraham · February 3, 2012, 10:24 AM

.32 caliber round going pretty danged fast.

If this old rifle won't drop it,,,
I don't wanna be near it!

Aarond

Havamal · February 3, 2012, 11:28 PM

European or hand loads of 8MM Mausers.
Still among the cheapest bulk ammo that hits hard. Perhaps the most "bang for the buck" category. (no pun intended).

Like to find a "fast" 100-yard scope, rings, and mount that's either quick detachable or be able to use iron sights under the scope for our Czech V24 Brno....

SurplusShooter23 · February 4, 2012, 07:43 AM

If your shots werent long and they arent really where I hunt in SC then I would consider a M95. The 8x56 packs a punch

Webleymkv · February 5, 2012, 12:26 PM

Really, just about any of the 30-ish caliber battle rifle cartridges including .30-06, .308/7.62x51, .303 British, 7.92x57 Mauser, 7.62x54R, .30-40 Krag, 7.5x55 Swiss, 7.5x54 French, 7.7 Japanese, 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser, 8x56R Steyr-Mannlicher, and even 7.35 Carcano and 8x50R Lebel would be sufficient for any North American Game if loaded with the right bullet. Some of the smaller-bore cartridges including 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Arisaka, 6.5 Swede, and 7mm Mauser would also be fine for most North American game although I'd be a bit hesitant to use them on grizzly due to limitations in bullet weight.

mapsjanhere · February 8, 2012, 10:42 AM

I think the 8x57 will be perfect in a K98 as a hunting set-up for anything but brown and polar bears. For those I'd go with a G3 and a full magazine, and hope that I can make up for the lack of single shot stopping power with multiple hits (after all, they used to poach elephants with AK47 in full-auto mode).

HunterT · February 9, 2012, 09:03 PM

Just my $0.02:
I'd pick the .30-06(Garand/1903) for one simple reason, if used correctly (i.e. accurate rifle & shooter) the .30-06 can be used to take just about anything. I wouldn't feel too badly under-gunned facing a brown bear with a .30-06, but then again I don't hunt brown bear.

I think Hemingway took one to Africa. Can anyone confirm that?

zfk55 · February 9, 2012, 09:39 PM

The k31 is a 1,000 yard rifle. Scoped, with load data already developed for the 168, 185, 190 and 200gr projectiles, its not easy for any North American game to walk away from. The scoped k31 is a true moa rifle. Reloading cost is no more than that of a .308.

Latigo

cornbush · February 9, 2012, 10:25 PM

I regularly hunt with my 7.7x58mm Arisaka my grandfather gave me, so ya I'll use that one thanks.

Pigslayer · February 12, 2012, 09:00 AM

7.62x54R I bought mine for $84.00 + tax. Yep, it was ugly when I got it. But when I saw how good it shot the ugliness started to fall away. It packs a punch. With 150gr. SBT from Privi Partisan I was grouping under 2" @ 50 yds. with open sights and cataract laden eyes. The cataracts are now history, the stock refinished and I'm waiting on the new scout scope for it. This baby is going deer hunting next year. The 7MM Mag. & the .270 Win are going to sit next season out.

rko001 · February 14, 2012, 09:04 AM

if I had to pick one milsurp, non .308/.30-06, rifle for hunting, my first choice would be the Jungle Carbine. The .303 may be less powerful than either the 8mm or 7.62x54, but it is also much lighter and handier in the carbine. I don't hunt from a stand so weight is a consideration. Also, I have never hunted anything that could hunt me, so the .303 would fit my needs. Now, if I was to go after the big bears, I'd take a Barret .50 and a change of underwear!

tahoe2 · February 16, 2012, 01:11 AM

mauser all the way, 8mm hot rod (european or handloads), my sporter M24/47 shoots 1-1/4" @ 100 with 200grn Speer Hot Cores. It can handle moose and grizzley too! (200grn partitions).
"Webley" said it; they're all pretty good, and I would not feel undergunned for the rest of North America's big game.

jh9x18ky · February 16, 2012, 06:42 AM

I have 2 8mm Mausers. An old rough Turk in a fiberglass stock, and a Yugo M48. Either will do the job, and do it well. Also own a 1910 Swede in 6.5 . I would and do depend on any of the 3 in the hills and woods.

February 3, 2012, 10:24 AM	#51
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	8 mm Mauser,,, .32 caliber round going pretty danged fast. If this old rifle won't drop it,,, I don't wanna be near it! Aarond __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

February 3, 2012, 11:28 PM	#52
Havamal Member Join Date: January 11, 2010 Posts: 19	8MM Mauser European or hand loads of 8MM Mausers. Still among the cheapest bulk ammo that hits hard. Perhaps the most "bang for the buck" category. (no pun intended). Like to find a "fast" 100-yard scope, rings, and mount that's either quick detachable or be able to use iron sights under the scope for our Czech V24 Brno.... __________________ "I hurt, therefore I am."

February 8, 2012, 10:42 AM	#55
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	I think the 8x57 will be perfect in a K98 as a hunting set-up for anything but brown and polar bears. For those I'd go with a G3 and a full magazine, and hope that I can make up for the lack of single shot stopping power with multiple hits (after all, they used to poach elephants with AK47 in full-auto mode). __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

February 9, 2012, 09:39 PM	#57
zfk55 Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2009 Location: Lost Prairie Montana Posts: 391	The k31 is a 1,000 yard rifle. Scoped, with load data already developed for the 168, 185, 190 and 200gr projectiles, its not easy for any North American game to walk away from. The scoped k31 is a true moa rifle. Reloading cost is no more than that of a .308. Latigo __________________ www.swissproductsllc.com An'' ole' Brer' Rabbit, he set in de bushes, he watch an' he wait, lay low an' he don' say nuffin'

February 9, 2012, 10:25 PM	#58
cornbush Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: The retarded place below Idaho Posts: 1,408	I regularly hunt with my 7.7x58mm Arisaka my grandfather gave me, so ya I'll use that one thanks. __________________ The best shot I ever made was an accident

February 4, 2012, 07:43 AM	#53
SurplusShooter23 Junior Member Join Date: February 4, 2012 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 8	If your shots werent long and they arent really where I hunt in SC then I would consider a M95. The 8x56 packs a punch

February 5, 2012, 12:26 PM	#54
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	Really, just about any of the 30-ish caliber battle rifle cartridges including .30-06, .308/7.62x51, .303 British, 7.92x57 Mauser, 7.62x54R, .30-40 Krag, 7.5x55 Swiss, 7.5x54 French, 7.7 Japanese, 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser, 8x56R Steyr-Mannlicher, and even 7.35 Carcano and 8x50R Lebel would be sufficient for any North American Game if loaded with the right bullet. Some of the smaller-bore cartridges including 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Arisaka, 6.5 Swede, and 7mm Mauser would also be fine for most North American game although I'd be a bit hesitant to use them on grizzly due to limitations in bullet weight.

February 9, 2012, 09:03 PM	#56
HunterT Member Join Date: June 2, 2010 Posts: 18	Just my $0.02: I'd pick the .30-06(Garand/1903) for one simple reason, if used correctly (i.e. accurate rifle & shooter) the .30-06 can be used to take just about anything. I wouldn't feel too badly under-gunned facing a brown bear with a .30-06, but then again I don't hunt brown bear. I think Hemingway took one to Africa. Can anyone confirm that?

February 12, 2012, 09:00 AM	#59
Pigslayer Junior Member Join Date: February 12, 2012 Location: Just south of the Mason-Dixon line. Posts: 5	7.62x54R I bought mine for $84.00 + tax. Yep, it was ugly when I got it. But when I saw how good it shot the ugliness started to fall away. It packs a punch. With 150gr. SBT from Privi Partisan I was grouping under 2" @ 50 yds. with open sights and cataract laden eyes. The cataracts are now history, the stock refinished and I'm waiting on the new scout scope for it. This baby is going deer hunting next year. The 7MM Mag. & the .270 Win are going to sit next season out. __________________ "It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts. It' being willing." - John Wayne . . . "The Shootist"

February 14, 2012, 09:04 AM	#60
rko001 Junior Member Join Date: February 12, 2012 Location: DC Posts: 8	if I had to pick one milsurp, non .308/.30-06, rifle for hunting, my first choice would be the Jungle Carbine. The .303 may be less powerful than either the 8mm or 7.62x54, but it is also much lighter and handier in the carbine. I don't hunt from a stand so weight is a consideration. Also, I have never hunted anything that could hunt me, so the .303 would fit my needs. Now, if I was to go after the big bears, I'd take a Barret .50 and a change of underwear!

February 16, 2012, 01:11 AM	#61
tahoe2 Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2011 Location: Seattle area Posts: 661	98 mauser mauser all the way, 8mm hot rod (european or handloads), my sporter M24/47 shoots 1-1/4" @ 100 with 200grn Speer Hot Cores. It can handle moose and grizzley too! (200grn partitions). "Webley" said it; they're all pretty good, and I would not feel undergunned for the rest of North America's big game.

February 16, 2012, 06:42 AM	#62
jh9x18ky Member Join Date: January 17, 2007 Location: KY Posts: 47	I have 2 8mm Mausers. An old rough Turk in a fiberglass stock, and a Yugo M48. Either will do the job, and do it well. Also own a 1910 Swede in 6.5 . I would and do depend on any of the 3 in the hills and woods. __________________ "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for." Clint Smith