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May 20, 2020, 03:56 PM | #26 | |
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May 20, 2020, 04:57 PM | #27 |
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I think that during the designing years of our form of government, citizens were responsible for their own lives and not dependent on the kindness of any government. They truly valued liberty and were willing to defend it.
I also suspect that today many, not all, citizens have become so used to the largess of government handouts that that it would be very difficult to organize a serious resistance to an out of control government. I believe this to be an unfortunate result of citizens slowly allowing the government to intrude little by little into almost every aspect of our lives. We have willingly given up control in order to seemingly make life easier. Our government run education system is only one example where we lost control. Especially of young minds. Congress has abdicated it's responsibility to represent the people by allowing agencies like the EPA, OSHA, Dept. of Agriculture, Dept. of Education and many others to make rules that become law without approval by congress. Congress even made it possible for themselves to get raises without voting for a raise. Did anyone complain? We the people no longer have input as to what new rules are approved. I could go on but you get the picture. Bob NRA Benefactor Member Golden Eagle |
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I can no longer remember the name of the act (and I'm too lazy to look at this time) but around 30 or so years ago, Congress passed it, and it became law. Under that law, Congress does not "allow" the various agencies regulations "to become law", Congress REQUIRES those agencies regulations to carry the force of law. Once upon a time, if you broke a regulation, you did not automatically break the law. Today, not so much. In most cases, if you break a Fed regulation (which is still not, technically, a law) you are now guilty of breaking the law. Its a word game, but then, that's what Congress does...
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May 21, 2020, 04:44 AM | #29 |
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I think the closest was that battle of Athens in 1946.
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May 21, 2020, 06:59 AM | #30 | |
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For the Lawyers here:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...3-894_e2qg.pdf MacLean v Homeland Security (2014) Quote:
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There's a lot more in there. I don't think we can safely extrapolate from this decision to conclude that no regulations have the force of law.
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