Can anyone help me identify my Colt 1911

Cajakid · November 7, 2012, 12:14 AM

I picked this 1911 up a few years ago, Nicely built gun but it has what I think are series 80 serial number but it is a series 70 internal can anyone help me with this? It is a combat Cmdr.80BS3086#, I appreciate any assistance with this

Winchester_73 · November 7, 2012, 12:17 AM

There were no series 70 combat commanders. That explains what it might be a series 80 SN, but that wouldn't change anything anyways. The series 70 guns had a factory collet bushing, so even if made in the 1970s, it is not a real "series 70" gun.

Jim Watson · November 7, 2012, 12:22 AM

Yes, and a clip is not a magazine, either.
Little as I like it, "Series 70" has come to be generic for "lacking a firing pin obstruction."

To answer the OQ, there was some overlap, there are guns with 80 serial number prefixes that lack the superfluous parts.
Obvious, he has one.

I don't know how many or for how long, though.

Cajakid · November 7, 2012, 12:41 AM

I was hoping someone could identify it by the serial number, so I would know that the lower was Built as a commander, I will say this is mostly a parts gun, mostly Wilson, the slide has a hard chrome finish and the frame is alloy.

Sport45 · November 7, 2012, 02:08 AM

Pictures would be nice... They would help even more since you say this is a parts gun.

AKsRul.e · November 7, 2012, 10:04 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Commander

Colt Combat Commander (1970+)

Chambering: 9x19 mm Parabellum, .45 ACP, .38 Super.
Barrel Length: 4.25-inch.
Overall Length: 7.75-inch.
Weight: 36 oz. / 2.25 lb. (1.02 kg.)[Steel model]. 37 oz.
2.31 lb (1.05 kg.)[Stainless Steel model]

Finish: Available in Blued and Nickel-Plated steel or
stainless steel.
Features: All-steel construction (frame and slide).
-------------------------------------------------
So your gun is NOT a complete Colt.
The Frame is NOT from a Combat Commander.

And technically it's NOT a 1911.

Skadoosh · November 7, 2012, 10:11 AM

I too have a combat commander with the same 80BS#### serial number. It's a pre-Series 80 and is constructed like a series 70.

November 7, 2012, 12:14 AM	#1
Cajakid Junior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 2	Can anyone help me identify my Colt 1911 I picked this 1911 up a few years ago, Nicely built gun but it has what I think are series 80 serial number but it is a series 70 internal can anyone help me with this? It is a combat Cmdr.80BS3086#, I appreciate any assistance with this Last edited by Cajakid; November 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM. Reason: Forgot a digit

November 7, 2012, 12:17 AM	#2
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,863	There were no series 70 combat commanders. That explains what it might be a series 80 SN, but that wouldn't change anything anyways. The series 70 guns had a factory collet bushing, so even if made in the 1970s, it is not a real "series 70" gun. __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

November 7, 2012, 02:08 AM	#5
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	Pictures would be nice... They would help even more since you say this is a parts gun. __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

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Skadoosh Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2010 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,016	I too have a combat commander with the same 80BS#### serial number. It's a pre-Series 80 and is constructed like a series 70. __________________ NRA Life Member USN Retired

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November 7, 2012, 12:22 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	Yes, and a clip is not a magazine, either. Little as I like it, "Series 70" has come to be generic for "lacking a firing pin obstruction." To answer the OQ, there was some overlap, there are guns with 80 serial number prefixes that lack the superfluous parts. Obvious, he has one. I don't know how many or for how long, though.

November 7, 2012, 12:41 AM	#4
Cajakid Junior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 2	I was hoping someone could identify it by the serial number, so I would know that the lower was Built as a commander, I will say this is mostly a parts gun, mostly Wilson, the slide has a hard chrome finish and the frame is alloy.

November 7, 2012, 10:04 AM	#6
AKsRul.e Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 234	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Commander Colt Combat Commander (1970+) Chambering: 9x19 mm Parabellum, .45 ACP, .38 Super. Barrel Length: 4.25-inch. Overall Length: 7.75-inch. Weight: 36 oz. / 2.25 lb. (1.02 kg.)[Steel model]. 37 oz. 2.31 lb (1.05 kg.)[Stainless Steel model] Finish: Available in Blued and Nickel-Plated steel or stainless steel. Features: All-steel construction (frame and slide). ------------------------------------------------- So your gun is NOT a complete Colt. The Frame is NOT from a Combat Commander. And technically it's NOT a 1911.