Colt Announces It Will Discontinue Retail Sales of Long Guns - Page 2

Don Fischer · September 13, 2019, 09:51 AM

I am not even remotely a fan of the black rifle. So I saw the title to this and though, Colt hasn't marketed a rifle since the late 70's! Excuse my ignorance. That rifle they sold then was made by J.P. Sauer. Absolutely beautiful. Seem to me Colt has been going down hill for a long time. I can't recall the last time I saw a Colt firearm in a store. Till this thread I wasn't even sure they were still in business.

Bartholomew Roberts · September 13, 2019, 09:56 AM

It just baffles me that Colt has manufactured some of the most popular American firearms ever designed and yet they can’t seem to profit off of it. Though to be fair, it seems like Colt losing exclusive rights to produce them is usually about where they became popular.

Don Fischer · September 13, 2019, 04:34 PM

I'm a DA fan but truth is it seem's like today it's auto loaders in demand and I think all Colt makes is the 1911. That has to hurt. I wonder what sells most in auto loader's, 9mm or something bigger. I don't know that colt has ever made a 9mm. Resting on their laurels will destroy them. Many years ago I had a little auto loader in 22 RF, I think it was made by some company called Ace Looked exactly like a scaled down 1911! Even if colt could come out with something like that but a bit bigger it would have to be a plus. Just don't see the volume in DA or SA handguns like there used to be. Self defense pretty much killing them off.

fourbore · September 13, 2019, 04:47 PM

Ruger sells revolvers like hot cakes. Single action and double action. I own quite a few. The colt revolvers are priced for the crazy rich collectors.

Jeff22 · September 23, 2019, 04:26 AM

So, I found this researching on the net:

18 Nov 2018 Army contract.
Colt’s Manufacturing Company LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded an $88,607,109 modification (P00008) to contract W15QKN-15-D-0102 for M4 and M4A1 carbines. Work will be performed in West Hartford, Connecticut, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 25, 2020. Fiscal 2019 and 2020 operations and maintenance, Army funds in the amount of $88,607,109 were obligated at the time of the award. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity.

19 September, 2019 Foreign Military Sales contract
Colt’s Manufacturing Co. LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded a $41,924,594 firm-fixed-price Foreign Military Sales (Afghanistan, Bahrain, Djibouti, Federated States of Micronesia, Hungary, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Palau, St. Vincent and Grenadines, and Tunisia) contract for production for the M4 and M4A1 carbines. One bid was solicited with one bid received. Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 18, 2024. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity

Total of $130, 531,703.

Colt has $130 MILLION dollars of government contracts to fill. They might be busy for a while

Don Fischer · September 23, 2019, 09:28 AM

Seem's to me a lot of people went on the war path against Colt when this first came out. I was clueless as all they sold that I ever liked, other than the Colt/Sauer rifle was some of their DA handguns. Not for some reason this look's like they had to give up something and they did. As I said earlier, no big loss for me as I don't like black rifles in the first place! :-)

natman · September 23, 2019, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff22

So, I found this researching on the net:

18 Nov 2018 Army contract.
Colt’s Manufacturing Company LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded an $88,607,109 modification (P00008) to contract W15QKN-15-D-0102 for M4 and M4A1 carbines. Work will be performed in West Hartford, Connecticut, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 25, 2020. Fiscal 2019 and 2020 operations and maintenance, Army funds in the amount of $88,607,109 were obligated at the time of the award. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity.

19 September, 2019 Foreign Military Sales contract
Colt’s Manufacturing Co. LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded a $41,924,594 firm-fixed-price Foreign Military Sales (Afghanistan, Bahrain, Djibouti, Federated States of Micronesia, Hungary, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Palau, St. Vincent and Grenadines, and Tunisia) contract for production for the M4 and M4A1 carbines. One bid was solicited with one bid received. Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 18, 2024. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity

Total of $130, 531,703.

Colt has $130 MILLION dollars of government contracts to fill. They might be busy for a while

This would agree with your assessment.

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2019/09/2...ian-msr-sales/

natman · September 23, 2019, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fischer

I am not even remotely a fan of the black rifle. So I saw the title to this and though, Colt hasn't marketed a rifle since the late 70's!

Colt sold the Colt Light Rifle, a bolt action in the late '90s. It's understandable that you might not remember it, it had production issues and was only sold for a short time.

Don Fischer · September 23, 2019, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natman

Colt sold the Colt Light Rifle, a bolt action in the late '90s. It's understandable that you might not remember it, it had production issues and was only sold for a short time.

ut I'll remember to the day I die that Colt/Sauer I handled in the late 70's. Beautiful by any standard, also expensive!

JJ45 · September 23, 2019, 12:47 PM

Just curious-who did they lose the contract to and why? For the M16

Dfariswheel · September 23, 2019, 06:39 PM

I seem to recall they lost "A" contract to FN America a few years ago, due to FN submitting a lower bid.

Colt is still selling M4 series rifles to the US military, per the above post about a 2018 contract to make M4 and M4-A1 carbines for the US military.

It seems that other then Russia and China and their allied countries, most of the free worlds special ops and a great many foreign militaries and police are buying Colt M4 series carbines.

September 23, 2019, 04:26 AM	#30
Jeff22 Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 715	So, I found this researching on the net: 18 Nov 2018 Army contract. Colt’s Manufacturing Company LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded an $88,607,109 modification (P00008) to contract W15QKN-15-D-0102 for M4 and M4A1 carbines. Work will be performed in West Hartford, Connecticut, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 25, 2020. Fiscal 2019 and 2020 operations and maintenance, Army funds in the amount of $88,607,109 were obligated at the time of the award. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity. 19 September, 2019 Foreign Military Sales contract Colt’s Manufacturing Co. LLC, West Hartford, Connecticut, was awarded a $41,924,594 firm-fixed-price Foreign Military Sales (Afghanistan, Bahrain, Djibouti, Federated States of Micronesia, Hungary, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Palau, St. Vincent and Grenadines, and Tunisia) contract for production for the M4 and M4A1 carbines. One bid was solicited with one bid received. Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of Sept. 18, 2024. U.S. Army Contracting Command, New Jersey, is the contracting activity Total of $130, 531,703. Colt has $130 MILLION dollars of government contracts to fill. They might be busy for a while __________________ You can only learn from experience if you pay attention!

September 13, 2019, 09:51 AM	#26
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I am not even remotely a fan of the black rifle. So I saw the title to this and though, Colt hasn't marketed a rifle since the late 70's! Excuse my ignorance. That rifle they sold then was made by J.P. Sauer. Absolutely beautiful. Seem to me Colt has been going down hill for a long time. I can't recall the last time I saw a Colt firearm in a store. Till this thread I wasn't even sure they were still in business.

September 13, 2019, 09:56 AM	#27
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	It just baffles me that Colt has manufactured some of the most popular American firearms ever designed and yet they can’t seem to profit off of it. Though to be fair, it seems like Colt losing exclusive rights to produce them is usually about where they became popular.

September 13, 2019, 04:34 PM	#28
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I'm a DA fan but truth is it seem's like today it's auto loaders in demand and I think all Colt makes is the 1911. That has to hurt. I wonder what sells most in auto loader's, 9mm or something bigger. I don't know that colt has ever made a 9mm. Resting on their laurels will destroy them. Many years ago I had a little auto loader in 22 RF, I think it was made by some company called Ace Looked exactly like a scaled down 1911! Even if colt could come out with something like that but a bit bigger it would have to be a plus. Just don't see the volume in DA or SA handguns like there used to be. Self defense pretty much killing them off.

September 13, 2019, 04:47 PM	#29
fourbore Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2015 Location: new england Posts: 1,159	Ruger sells revolvers like hot cakes. Single action and double action. I own quite a few. The colt revolvers are priced for the crazy rich collectors.

September 23, 2019, 09:28 AM	#31
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	Seem's to me a lot of people went on the war path against Colt when this first came out. I was clueless as all they sold that I ever liked, other than the Colt/Sauer rifle was some of their DA handguns. Not for some reason this look's like they had to give up something and they did. As I said earlier, no big loss for me as I don't like black rifles in the first place! :-)

September 23, 2019, 12:47 PM	#35
JJ45 Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 2015 Posts: 908	Just curious-who did they lose the contract to and why? For the M16

September 23, 2019, 06:39 PM	#36
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	I seem to recall they lost "A" contract to FN America a few years ago, due to FN submitting a lower bid. Colt is still selling M4 series rifles to the US military, per the above post about a 2018 contract to make M4 and M4-A1 carbines for the US military. It seems that other then Russia and China and their allied countries, most of the free worlds special ops and a great many foreign militaries and police are buying Colt M4 series carbines.