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August 10, 2017, 02:38 PM | #26 |
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I would argue that pistols as small as a G42 are not the best thing for a new shooters.
The g42 is a soft shooter for it's size, but it's not a short shooter on the whole. |
August 10, 2017, 03:09 PM | #27 |
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Based on the info available, I would second (or third) --
VP9 PPQ M&P G19 (gen4) |
August 10, 2017, 03:44 PM | #28 |
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My youngest daughter is 28 and athletic. Her favorite pistol is her Beretta PX4 Compact in 9 mm. The grip has a nice ergonomic shape, and three backstraps come with the pistol for size adjustment. Recoil is quite mild, due at least in part to the rotating barrel system. It just might be the softest shooting 9 mm I have run across. Not saying it will be the end-all in your situation, but it is worth having a gander if your and she run across one.
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August 10, 2017, 04:49 PM | #29 |
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Actually, my sister loved the PX4 storm too. She decided to go for a sig p938 and likes it for carry but doesnt like to shoot it much.
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August 10, 2017, 05:00 PM | #30 | |
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IMO the Walther PPS may be something for her to look at while she goes to the local gun store/range to try out what interests her. Glock 19 is also usually a safe bet to try out but there are so many fine choices.
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August 10, 2017, 08:58 PM | #31 |
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The ladies tend to like the feel of the grip on my Walther PPQ and Steyr L9-A1 the best. They usually like PPQ the best overall because of it being lighter in weight than the L9-A1. When it's a Steyr M9-A1 it's closer to an even split with the PPQ. The Steyr M9-A1 or C9-A1 and Walther PPQ would be a good place to start. The PPQ will be easier to rack and the M9-A1 will have less recoil.
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August 10, 2017, 09:16 PM | #32 |
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My daughter (26) bought a Ruger SR9C and is very happy with it.
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August 10, 2017, 10:19 PM | #33 |
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From a woman's perspective, here are a few I enjoy shooting, not in any particular order:
-M&P -PPQ -VP9 -P229 (I have 2 P226s i like too, but the P229 fits my hand a bit better) -Hi-Power -Not a 9 and might sound odd but S&W 1911SC E series - bobtail grip, commander size and incredible balance, ergonomically sounds and in spite of the lighter scandium frame handles recoil of the 45 like a champ. Try it to believe it. I like the government size too, but find i pull out the SC more often. -Seriously consider 3rd gennie S&Ws, very nicely balanced and good shooters. 5903 is alloy frame and lighter than the 5906. -Their forebear S&W 39-2 is a nearly perfect-feeling grip, bobtail just FITS - find one and it will be liked, plus accurate shooter. -Beretta 92FS compact, tad better fit in the hand than the full-size 92 -CZ75B I own all of the above mentioned, including the full sizes, so can speak with first-hand knowledge. I own and carry a PM9, P938, 442 and a Shield. Other than the shield i would NOT recommend any of these as a first gun. The snappier recoil is too much of a distraction while learning. For carry, I do not recommend the P938 for a newbie due to the need for stone cold competency of dealing with a cocked and locked gun with a safery. THe PM9 and 442 revolver are DA so the trigger pull is the safety. The manual safety can be added to the repertory later in the game. For one gun do-all for both carry and target practice, i would choose the Shield. I like it, and every woman who has shot mine instantly considers getting one, even if it means trading off what they already have. As easy to use as a spoon, good shooting, carryable and not bad on recoil at all. Notice the absence of Glocks. Not a one in my collection, anywhere. They just do not fit my hand. One day i was at the range, and a couple was in the lane next to me. They had rented a glock of some sort, and a P226. The woman was a first time shooter, and fella was trying to get her interested in one of them to purchase. She liked the Sig, but thought it was a bit on the heavy side. She clearly was uncomfortable with the grip angle on the glock. I offered up the Shield i happened to have with me that day, and she loved it. She said it fit her hand much better than either the sig or the glock. (PS i am a sig fan-girl, and have six in 5 models, so this is not just a shield fan-girl thing) Those who have recommended renting are spot on. ALternatively, if you can go shooting with other owners who will share, she might be able to experience a variety that way. The big key is what fits HER hand. The only way to know is to try em all, I say! Last edited by Vividia; August 10, 2017 at 10:29 PM. |
August 10, 2017, 10:31 PM | #34 |
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I went through this twice with my wife. She absolutely had to go to a few different ranges and test out about 10 different Pistols. Her final decision was to stick with her LCR 357 loaded with 38 specials. Go figure that one out. I said to her, OK, you made the right decision. Happy Wife, Happy Life.
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My wife, after trying everything I own, will only consider shooting two guns - her Browning Buckmark Micro and her Winchester 9422 Trapper. She picked them both out & won't have anything to do with anything else. To the OP - take as many recommendations as possible, but, understand that in the long run - her gun will be what she decides it will be. P.S. I'm so glad my wife fell in love with her Buckmark Micro......I got my High Standard Sport King back! She'd glommed onto that right before we got married... |
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August 11, 2017, 06:00 AM | #36 |
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Everyone who's shot it loves my Wife's Pink Taurus 24/7 Pro-C,
17 rds, double-stack mag, light slide & recoil... problem is it's recalled...LOL Its safety works just fine...so far...luckily. Haven't found a G2 in our area to try out, but I'd guess it would feel pretty much the same, just with better safety features, and minus the Pink Color so far...but there's always Cerakote Smith & Wesson 3rd Gen's are always a favorite... the 3900, 5900, and 6900 series are all winners! And at this point, are selling like hotcakes at Bud's, and other retailers. As always, get her to at least HOLD a few dozen different ones. You will know when she finds the right one, as she'll light up like a Roman Candle. If she's just in it to "Please Pop", nothing will do. Gun Show Time One way or the other, you'll find out. And don't be surprised if it's an archaic Star B, which is basically a 1911 without the grip safety in 9mm. Lotta gals HATE the 1911 grip safety as it can pinch thier more thin and delicate palm skin.
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August 11, 2017, 08:38 AM | #37 |
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I instruct a Women's Only Firearm SD class.
Up front I tell ladies not to buy a gun until they attend the class. Our club furnished just about every hand gun imaginable having the ladies try as many as possible to see what fits them. We dont push toward any certain gun. Not all people are the same, just like shoes, not all shoes fit the same feet. TRY AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. Do not let someone else choose your hand gun.
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August 11, 2017, 10:16 AM | #38 |
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One must add www.corneredcat.com as an excellent resource for info on these issues.
I would also like to second the suggestion for quality instruction, esp. with a class cognizant of gender issues in firearm usage. That's the best step you could take. Vicki Farnam gave a great presentation on why men shouldn't pick guns for others. I saw some guy get twisted in knots because his wife didn't like his choice for her of a super compact 1911 - the ultimate stopper.
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August 11, 2017, 10:28 AM | #39 |
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August 11, 2017, 05:59 PM | #40 |
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I haven't seen it suggested but the Remington R51 sounds like it's worth a shot (pun intended). It is single stack, light (aluminum) and due to the design it is easier to rack the slide and recoil is less than a typical blow back design due to the barrel inside the recoil spring design. It also has a nice look to it.
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August 11, 2017, 06:11 PM | #41 |
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Here's one out of left field, a Citadel 1911 in 9mm.
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August 11, 2017, 07:50 PM | #42 |
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CZ P07.
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August 12, 2017, 09:25 PM | #43 |
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Yeah, I hate to be utterly predictable, but the Glock 19 immediately popped into my head too, assuming she's cool with a gun that's always hot when a round is in the chamber. A Glock is a bit different from a decocked P226. (I still have people who argue like hell with me about the need for a manual safety, and I can see their points.) A couple weeks ago I woulda said P320C, but ... put that idea on hold.
Other ideas would be the P229/M11-A1 (downside: expensive) or the CZ P01/PCR (downside: a little weird to rack with that narrow slide). Everything is a trade-off.
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August 12, 2017, 10:09 PM | #44 |
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Whats your budget?
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August 13, 2017, 12:12 PM | #45 |
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"The big key is what fits HER hand. The only way to know is to try em all, I say!"
I could not agree more. There is such a wide variety of firearms out there that if a person actually 'wants' to get into it, they can. Gender really doesn't even play a role in this any more than a persons size. It's about whatever it is that's in the heart to do. Women are typically seen as weaker, but there are plenty of women in this world that can be a challenge for any man. There are people with small hands (both men and women) and people with large hands (both men and women). If she 'wants' to get into it, she will. Like anything else in life. Otherwise, the potential enjoyment will never be realized. The only way to understand that fire is hot is to get burned. One cannot be forced. Guidance and patience is required. |
August 13, 2017, 12:22 PM | #46 |
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My wife loves her Ruger SR9.
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August 13, 2017, 06:11 PM | #47 |
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That sounds like an excellent recommendation. Not too big, or too heavy, or too much girth in the grip, nice single action trigger pull. Yet, much easier on the hand than the subcompact 9mms. Has a visible hammer and decocking is simple.
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August 13, 2017, 06:17 PM | #48 |
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I don't love the looks of them but the PX4 storm does soak up recoil like a champ.
Based on the situation you described that would be my vote. |
August 13, 2017, 06:59 PM | #49 |
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If she liked the 226 I'm sure she would like the 225. The 226 fits me fine due to it's great ergonomics and my P6 which is the German version of the 225 fits even better. I beleive that Sig makes the most universal grips of all the semiauto gun makers there are.
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August 13, 2017, 07:57 PM | #50 |
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My wife really likes our VP9 .
Interchangeable backstrap and sides/palmswells make it fit like a glove and the little wings ( that so many hate ) make it easy to rack. |
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