Anyone have trouble getting a LEO sigh off?

GA Limited GM · May 3, 2008, 12:13 PM

Our local Sheriff has had my forms for SBR and suppressor for most a month. I stopped by and asked if there was any questions holding us up. The kind lady, seems the Sheriff isn't in often, said he "wasn't filling out anything he didn't know what it was." I explained again what it was and asked why he hadn't called? (I had attached my business card to the paperwork) She said they had called to no avail. (My phone is on 24/7/365)

I'm tiring.....

aroundlsu · May 3, 2008, 12:37 PM

My signoff took 8 weeks to get and repeated phone calls.

VUPDblue · May 3, 2008, 01:21 PM

Form a Trust and bypass the CLEO. Bypass the fingerprints, citizenship certification and photograph too, for that matter... PM me for details...

GA Limited GM · May 3, 2008, 04:09 PM

Around...did they ever give a reason?

VUPD...pmed you.

DonR101395 · May 3, 2008, 04:24 PM

Like VUPD said, form a trust. It was the best thing I did prior to getting into the NFA game.

Legion2600 · May 3, 2008, 10:36 PM

Yea, a trust or an LLC and be done with it.

GA Limited GM · May 4, 2008, 08:42 PM

Anyone know a FAQ thread on the trust option? I've been reading different threads on the subject and I think my brain is about to catch fire. Obviously a lawyer is a must.

DonR101395 · May 4, 2008, 10:39 PM

Try this, I was going to send it to you the other night, but they were changing servers and the site was down. The thread is info from a practicing trust attorney who is also a Class III dealer.

http://floridashootersnetwork.com/ph...ic.php?t=17743

also
http://www.arizonagunlist.com/How_to...O_signoff.html

GA Limited GM · May 5, 2008, 05:20 AM

Will do thanks!

VUPDblue · May 5, 2008, 07:25 AM

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=199942

Look here for trust info as well, from users who have done it.

GA Limited GM · May 6, 2008, 07:54 PM

I'm all over it. Thanks guys. I'll post pics when it's all done.

dajowi · May 21, 2008, 12:17 AM

Not only was the local CLEO delighted to sign off on the forms, we had a very pleasant discussion regarding shooting. Same goes with the local cop shop where I had the prints taken. They all were about as excited as I was that "I" was getting a subgun.

byronw999 · May 22, 2008, 04:35 PM

No probs here in DFW Texas... Course it doesnt hurt that my xfer FFL is a cop and just walks the paperwork right on through!

vwfool · May 22, 2008, 11:53 PM

Try moving

...just kidding. Where I grew up you couldn't get a LEO signiture unless you were directly related to the chief or sheriff. I moved to Oklahoma, and it is a whole other story. I called the Undersheriff last week and arranged to meet him on Monday morning. I went there, but he hadn't come in yet.The sheriff passed through the office. I asked if he had a minute,and the next thing I know I'm walking back out to my truck. The sheriff signed it, and he took my fingerprints, himself even though there was a deputy just 5 feet away.

freakshow10mm · May 22, 2008, 11:59 PM

The sheriff of the county I lived in when I moved to the UP was outstanding. Bitched and moaned about how much BS it is that he has to charge for carry permits. Said if it were up to him, he'd do it for free. Him and his staff are the best that money can buy.

Now I'm in a different county (next one over) and have seen the sheriff a few times, but not anyything special.

Silentarmy · May 26, 2008, 06:57 PM

BCI ( Bureau of Criminal Identification used to do the CLEO while you waited and they did the print cards there too True ons stop shopping! However, a certain Sherrif deputy who had been assigned this duty in his respective county had a tantrum as no one was coming to see him and his newly gifted power was wasted! Alas, the BCI no longer will do sign offs. My local Police chief had my last Form 4 back to me signed, less than 8 hrs after I dropped it at dispatch! A few county SD's here require you to go to BCI and pay for a BG check and bring it in with your form. Apparently these are the guys who didint read the form and understand what they are signing it for! It simply says "I have no information that the transferee(form 4) or maker ( form 1) will use the firearm or device for other than lawful purposes and that possesion is not violation of state or local laws. Doesnt take a BG check to tell him that!

May 3, 2008, 12:13 PM	#1
GA Limited GM Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Gods Country Posts: 73	Anyone have trouble getting a LEO sigh off? Our local Sheriff has had my forms for SBR and suppressor for most a month. I stopped by and asked if there was any questions holding us up. The kind lady, seems the Sheriff isn't in often, said he "wasn't filling out anything he didn't know what it was." I explained again what it was and asked why he hadn't called? (I had attached my business card to the paperwork) She said they had called to no avail. (My phone is on 24/7/365) I'm tiring.....

May 3, 2008, 01:21 PM	#3
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	Form a Trust and bypass the CLEO. Bypass the fingerprints, citizenship certification and photograph too, for that matter... PM me for details... __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

May 5, 2008, 07:25 AM	#10
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=199942 Look here for trust info as well, from users who have done it. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

May 22, 2008, 11:53 PM	#14
vwfool Member Join Date: May 17, 2008 Posts: 34	Try moving...just kidding. Where I grew up you couldn't get a LEO signiture unless you were directly related to the chief or sheriff. I moved to Oklahoma, and it is a whole other story. I called the Undersheriff last week and arranged to meet him on Monday morning. I went there, but he hadn't come in yet.The sheriff passed through the office. I asked if he had a minute,and the next thing I know I'm walking back out to my truck. The sheriff signed it, and he took my fingerprints, himself even though there was a deputy just 5 feet away.

May 26, 2008, 06:57 PM	#16
Silentarmy Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2007 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 355	BCI ( Bureau of Criminal Identification used to do the CLEO while you waited and they did the print cards there too True ons stop shopping! However, a certain Sherrif deputy who had been assigned this duty in his respective county had a tantrum as no one was coming to see him and his newly gifted power was wasted! Alas, the BCI no longer will do sign offs. My local Police chief had my last Form 4 back to me signed, less than 8 hrs after I dropped it at dispatch! A few county SD's here require you to go to BCI and pay for a BG check and bring it in with your form. Apparently these are the guys who didint read the form and understand what they are signing it for! It simply says "I have no information that the transferee(form 4) or maker ( form 1) will use the firearm or device for other than lawful purposes and that possesion is not violation of state or local laws. Doesnt take a BG check to tell him that! __________________ "No one will Ever buy that PLASTIC gun!" Steve Gallenson, Early 1980's "Those Who live by the sword get Shot by those of us who don't" "What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History!"

May 3, 2008, 12:37 PM	#2
aroundlsu Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 156	My signoff took 8 weeks to get and repeated phone calls.

May 3, 2008, 04:09 PM	#4
GA Limited GM Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Gods Country Posts: 73	Around...did they ever give a reason? VUPD...pmed you.

May 3, 2008, 04:24 PM	#5
DonR101395 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: NWFL Posts: 3,031	Like VUPD said, form a trust. It was the best thing I did prior to getting into the NFA game.

May 3, 2008, 10:36 PM	#6
Legion2600 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 108	Yea, a trust or an LLC and be done with it.

May 4, 2008, 08:42 PM	#7
GA Limited GM Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Gods Country Posts: 73	Anyone know a FAQ thread on the trust option? I've been reading different threads on the subject and I think my brain is about to catch fire. Obviously a lawyer is a must.

May 4, 2008, 10:39 PM	#8
DonR101395 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: NWFL Posts: 3,031	Try this, I was going to send it to you the other night, but they were changing servers and the site was down. The thread is info from a practicing trust attorney who is also a Class III dealer. http://floridashootersnetwork.com/ph...ic.php?t=17743 also http://www.arizonagunlist.com/How_to...O_signoff.html

May 5, 2008, 05:20 AM	#9
GA Limited GM Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Gods Country Posts: 73	Will do thanks!

May 6, 2008, 07:54 PM	#11
GA Limited GM Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Gods Country Posts: 73	I'm all over it. Thanks guys. I'll post pics when it's all done.

May 21, 2008, 12:17 AM	#12
dajowi Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Posts: 1,196	Not only was the local CLEO delighted to sign off on the forms, we had a very pleasant discussion regarding shooting. Same goes with the local cop shop where I had the prints taken. They all were about as excited as I was that "I" was getting a subgun.

May 22, 2008, 04:35 PM	#13
byronw999 Member Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Grand Prairie, Texas Posts: 46	No probs here in DFW Texas... Course it doesnt hurt that my xfer FFL is a cop and just walks the paperwork right on through!

May 22, 2008, 11:59 PM	#15
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	The sheriff of the county I lived in when I moved to the UP was outstanding. Bitched and moaned about how much BS it is that he has to charge for carry permits. Said if it were up to him, he'd do it for free. Him and his staff are the best that money can buy. Now I'm in a different county (next one over) and have seen the sheriff a few times, but not anyything special.