The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 15, 2013, 06:30 PM   #1
kuca_2004
Member
 
Join Date: May 8, 2011
Posts: 98
What is "moly"

What does the purpose of the Moly on the bullets? What is it and does it do anything benificial??
kuca_2004 is offline  
Old January 15, 2013, 09:25 PM   #2
1Hobie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 6, 2010
Location: west central Illinois
Posts: 277
Google is your friend. http://www.midwayusa.com/content/legacy/moly_faq.htm

Moly was purported to be a boon to the rifle. However, there are many pitfalls by using it. Please use the search function to learn more.

Hobie
1Hobie is offline  
Old January 15, 2013, 09:36 PM   #3
snuffy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 20, 2001
Location: Oshkosh wi.
Posts: 3,055
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum_disulfide

A lot like graphite.
__________________
The more people I meet, the more I love my dog

They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?
snuffy is offline  
Old January 15, 2013, 09:37 PM   #4
Ifishsum
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 15, 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,033
It used to be more popular than it seems to be now, but the main purpose I know of is to reduce copper fouling - I think to be really effective you need to deep clean the bore before switching to moly bullets and then stick to them. I've also seen reports that they raise pressures somewhat, so the same load with a moly bullet should be reduced a bit and worked back up.

I've cleaned a couple of rifle bores in which both moly and bare bullets were shot through together; to me they seemed to be much more difficult to get clean so I've generally avoided them. But I'm sure someone has used them with good results.
Ifishsum is offline  
Old February 6, 2013, 09:41 PM   #5
spitznagel
Member
 
Join Date: February 5, 2013
Posts: 22
moly is short for molybdenum, a metal

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65693
spitznagel is offline  
Old February 7, 2013, 01:52 AM   #6
snuffy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 20, 2001
Location: Oshkosh wi.
Posts: 3,055
Quote:
moly is short for molybdenum, a metal
Actually it's molybdenum disulphide.
__________________
The more people I meet, the more I love my dog

They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?
snuffy is offline  
Old February 7, 2013, 02:56 AM   #7
klyph3
Member
 
Join Date: July 11, 2012
Posts: 59
It's also the street name for the pure form of the illegal drug ecstasy, so if you are looking for some molybdenum bullet coating, don't ask the shady looking guy hanging out in front of the nightclub.
This public service announcement brought to you by the committee for the prevention of things that will probably never happen but would be funny if they did.
klyph3 is offline  
Old February 7, 2013, 02:42 PM   #8
Clark
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 4, 1999
Location: WA, the ever blue state
Posts: 4,678
I have been moly coating bullets for 11 years.
I think moly allows me more accurate shots before I have to clean Copper from the bore when shooting between 2600 and 3600 fps.

It does not help as much as having a select match barrel that has been lapped at the factory and is mirror smooth inside.

I started out with the Lyman kit; ceramic media, vibrator, screen separator, moly powder
I evolved into using BBs and magnetic separation.
Then I went to using bottles filled with just a few BBs or none at all, and the bottle thrown in a large vibrator with Walnut media.
Now I use a duck taped up bottle and put it in a Thumbler's Tumbler with no media.

I got started from something Walt Berger put on his web site before he sold his bullet company[I]

{Sorry. Good info, but kind of stretches the board copyrighted information policy. Could you put in a link instead? If there is none, we should drop WB a line and get his express permission.}

Here is some good info
http://www.6mmbr.com/bulletcoating.html
__________________
The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books."
"Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist.
Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

Last edited by Unclenick; February 7, 2013 at 05:18 PM.
Clark is offline  
Old February 7, 2013, 05:21 PM   #9
Unclenick
Staff
 
Join Date: March 4, 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 21,057
Ifishsum,

The moly actually lowers pressure; typically you drop about 20-50 fps off an established load when you start using moly bullets, and have to add powder to bring it back.
__________________
Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member
CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor
NRA Certified Rifle Instructor
NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle
Unclenick is offline  
Old February 8, 2013, 09:53 PM   #10
Clark
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 4, 1999
Location: WA, the ever blue state
Posts: 4,678
Quote:
I got started from something Walt Berger put on his web site before he sold his bullet company[I]

{Sorry. Good info, but kind of stretches the board copyrighted information policy. Could you put in a link instead? If there is none, we should drop WB a line and get his express permission.}

Last edited by Unclenick; Yesterday at 06:18 PM.
Walt Berger sold his interest in Berger bullets in 2000.
I clip boarded and put his instructions for moly into gun forums in 2002.
Berger Bullets has since phased out moly bullets, saying it is too cheap for individuals to do and too expensive for them with labor overhead.
http://www.bergerbullets.com/bullets...-discontinued/

It looks like as of 2 years ago Walt Berger is still alive.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/foru...bullets-75787/

When I speak on the phone to the guy at Neco, he tells me that the gentleman that patented the impingement process for moly on bullets is no longer with us.



I can see that in addition to my posts, the echo chamber of gun forums has spread the text of how to shoot moly bullets into some other languages.

I have only been posting on English speaking gun forums.


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=355478

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/ind...-moly-coating/

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/ind...3688956.5;wap2

http://benchrest.com/archive/index.php/t-81753.html

http://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthrea...&Number=292755

http://www.saubier.com/forum/archive...hp?t-6537.html

http://www.shootersforum.com/rifles-...-22-250-a.html

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-279749.html

http://www.predatormastersforums.com...&Number=909661

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...ns/i1ZFqqkIU80

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...php?p=54791899

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...ns/drfKH4Tbikk

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=1791252
__________________
The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books."
"Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist.
Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?
Clark is offline  
Old February 8, 2013, 10:25 PM   #11
Unclenick
Staff
 
Join Date: March 4, 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 21,057
Thanks. I find the copyright concerns a nuisance, as I used to use a lot of linking and copying myself, but am charged with enforcing the board rules just in case we find that one troublemaker with the desire to sue.
__________________
Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member
CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor
NRA Certified Rifle Instructor
NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle
Unclenick is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.09167 seconds with 10 queries