45-70 FTX

garryc · May 13, 2014, 11:43 AM

I keep reading that you have to trim the brass to 2.040 and grind off the seater die so you can crimp. Yet I see Hornady's sight and it shows a case length of 2.100 for lever actions and this bullet. what gives?

Also, they list only H322 for lever actions. In trapdoor they have all the other powders. I'm shooting IMR 3031 or 4064, any data on that?

flashhole · May 13, 2014, 04:55 PM

Hornady 45-70 brass from their Leverevolution product is significantly shorter than standard 45-70 brass. Don't know if this helps but I'm not familiar with the FTX terminology.

**44 AMP** · May 13, 2014, 11:21 PM

In the 70s, "FTX" was Army jargon for "Field Training Exercise".

aka "Field Problem"

aka pain in the weeds....

Not sure how its being used today...

Poindexter · May 14, 2014, 08:55 AM

I fooled with it a little bit.

My Marlin 1895GG didn't care for the FTX bullet, but the factory loaded Hornady brass is quite a bit shorter than the standard 45-70, IIRC .020.

I did throw one Starline case on my trimmer and take it down however far and stopped at doing just one.

I do have a custom Lee factory crimp die setup to crimp on the shorter brass that goes with the FTX bullet.

I may try some other powders with it now that I am out of H4895.

Farmland · May 17, 2014, 09:14 PM

I load these on a regular basis now. It took a nice learning curve to get everything to work right because of that short case.

Here is a thread from a few years back when I started.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413318

May 13, 2014, 11:43 AM	#1
garryc Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2005 Posts: 2,536	45-70 FTX I keep reading that you have to trim the brass to 2.040 and grind off the seater die so you can crimp. Yet I see Hornady's sight and it shows a case length of 2.100 for lever actions and this bullet. what gives? Also, they list only H322 for lever actions. In trapdoor they have all the other powders. I'm shooting IMR 3031 or 4064, any data on that?

May 13, 2014, 04:55 PM	#2
flashhole Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2005 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 2,000	Hornady 45-70 brass from their Leverevolution product is significantly shorter than standard 45-70 brass. Don't know if this helps but I'm not familiar with the FTX terminology. __________________ ,,, stupidity comes to some people very easily. 8/22/2017 my wife in a discussion about Liberals. Are you ready for civil war?

May 13, 2014, 11:21 PM	#3
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	In the 70s, "FTX" was Army jargon for "Field Training Exercise". aka "Field Problem" aka pain in the weeds.... Not sure how its being used today... __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

May 14, 2014, 08:55 AM	#4
Poindexter Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2009 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 154	I fooled with it a little bit. My Marlin 1895GG didn't care for the FTX bullet, but the factory loaded Hornady brass is quite a bit shorter than the standard 45-70, IIRC .020. I did throw one Starline case on my trimmer and take it down however far and stopped at doing just one. I do have a custom Lee factory crimp die setup to crimp on the shorter brass that goes with the FTX bullet. I may try some other powders with it now that I am out of H4895.

May 17, 2014, 09:14 PM	#5
Farmland Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Posts: 869	I load these on a regular basis now. It took a nice learning curve to get everything to work right because of that short case. Here is a thread from a few years back when I started. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413318